Should we boycott gay businesses?, page 19
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reply posted on 27-6-2010 @ 10:05 PM by dustydigits
Even though this is an old thread, I HAD to make this my first post on ATS.

Anyone remember one Ms Anita Bryant who took it upon herself to rid the world of all the terrible homosexuals in the name of God?? I do. I was 18 and closeted. I am now 52...you do the math. I hold a deep sense of gratitude for her brave attempt to carry on the "good fight". Her actions prompted me to come out of the closet at the onset of my adult life thereby avoiding much unecessary heartache that self deceit brings to the human condition.

Back to the subject. Ms Bryant was, at that time, the spokes person for the Florida Orange Growers Association, prompting a national boycott on orange juice by my proud people. A screwdriver (cocktail) couldn't be purchased in any gay bar in the country for any amount of money.....and what great pride it instilled when she was dropped by her employer like a rotten orange in the field. Today, I still don't drink OJ.

Anyone remember 80's Coor's Beer spokeperson Mark Harmon? He made the same mistake of making publicly denouncing homosexuals. His product immediately littered the streets in front of gay bars. CANNED..like the beer he sold. (sold, as in past tense)...Yes, Mr Harmon has now returned to us in the form of a sex idol once again....but you won't hear him utter homophobic remarks today.

Phillip-Morris, along with others have felt the pain of decreased profit margins due to their gay hating associates, and took appropriate measures to ensure their bottom line remained huge. It called green power.

I am proud to be a gay man whose people take care of themselves regardless of the adversity society inflicts on us...it only makes us stronger...so I, too, challenge anyone to boycott us....but you will be pay through the purse..( your Vera Wang purse will become a Wall Mart purse)

On a side point....I would wager that if every gay man and woman failed to show up for work on the same day...just one day..., the economic upheavel would reverberate around the world, from Wall Street to Main Street...but that's just my opinion.



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reply posted on 29-6-2010 @ 12:48 PM by halfoldman
Just read the OP (not too much else yet, sorry).
From my South African position it's a bit hard to understand.
I feel very sorry that some Mormon and gay activists have strong disagreements.
Here, I've had two very close Mormon friends. I always felt we bonded as mutual outsiders, since mainstream Christianity described both the gays and Mormons as deceived and unwitting "Satanists".
At least where Mormons are a minority, they get a lot of discimination too, and neither our Calvinistic or Evangelical mainstreams regard them as bona-fide "Christians".
At least as far as being misunderstood goes, I always thought gays and Mormons shared common ground.

In SA we had lots of boycotts, but ultimately they don't work.
The problem with boycotting activists is that they usually don't work in the mainstream market, and since there is probably hardly an exclusively "gay" business, you'd probably be harming a lot of heterosexuals.

What scares me more is that there is a general disatisfaction with the media - and this disatisfaction is blamed on the gays.
I feel quite marginalized by the US media, especialy Fox News, and largely heterosexist reality programs like The Kardashians, the Playboy Mansion and Paris Hilton.
That kind of frivilous, sexist entertainment is the fault of the gays?
Meanwhile, it is all meant to turn straight men on.

It's one thing to say we love the Mormons (to the point of boycotting for them - and we will also boycott fundamentalist churches who trash their Book of Mormon and defend them in a consistant way, and not just when it's a hypocritical slap on the face of self-styled gay-marriage activists), it's quite another to use the gays and Mormons for selective purposes.
To boycott selectively for minorities that one is not affiliated to is opportunism.
Actually it's just revealing some major prejudices. Anyone who really felt for the gays or the Mormons would have been more historically apologetic and contextualized.

Perhaps a third party is always happy when two enemies squabble - but they are no friend of either.


reply posted on 1-7-2010 @ 04:24 PM by morrr
reply to post by Jim Scott



Any warring against Gays is already lost - the powers that be are obsessed with everyone fighting for gay rights.

They have proven their ability to form a fraternity / comradship, and we are so unaware that this is not the case amongst our potential geopolitical enemies: Islam, China and Russia.

Methinks this is not just a coincidence. There are no Gay parades in China, Russia or Islam...


reply posted on 1-7-2010 @ 04:57 PM by Rafe_
Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to
post by blupblup



Well, I think it is ridiculous for the gays to be boycotting and harassing and namecalling anyone, too. They started it.



Did you stick out your tongue aswell after that post?
Did you run off to your teacher to tell on "them" ?


Seriously , i had some things to say after reading your comments but right after reading the one i just quoted i realised i may as well talk to my 3 year old niece since she makes a lot more sense.


reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 02:05 AM by Copperflower
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
reply to
post by Jim Scott




See, this is where I don't get it. It's ok for the gays to go after other businesses but it's not ok to go after gay businesses? When you use the same exact tactics that are used by the gays, it is like being a Nazi or something. Aren't the gays being the Nazis by going after the Mormons?

Is it okay for you to sit back and let people oppress and hate you, maybe hurt or try to kill you?

Is it okay for the Jews to just sit back and do nothing while the Nazis oppress and kill them arbitrarily?


Don't forget, women, children, and old folks are ahead of you in line here. They have been around and been mistreated since time out of mind.

Who gets to cut ahead of them? and why? Without the most vulnerable ones getting protected AT LAST, why go on to other groups?

First come first served. I think women were probably getting beaten, along with kids, before anyone else got discriminated against.

Debunk that. I'd love to see the foster care system get the attention and funding that benevolent seekers of social change bestow.

Then widows, vets, teachers, then whoever else. We have to have women, children, old folks, vets, teachers. Without them, there will be nothing to protest anyway.


reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 12:14 PM by evil incarnate
reply to post by Jim Scott



Right on!

Gay people have had it way too easy for way too long now.

It is about time you do something to opress them before they do it to all us poor straight people!

S + F for you!

Where were you when tyrants like Mathew Sheppard were ruling the world?


reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 03:53 PM by supernova49
reply to post by Jim Scott


Let it go stop bashing gay people,there not the problem you are.
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