Hate Crimes Surge in U.S. after Obama Election: Experts, page 3
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:20 AM by azzllin
All I see are people using the election as an excuse, an excuse to bring up a problem that IMO already existed long long before Obama was even considered for the Senate, never mind President.

We even have people from different religions using it to scream discrimination, mainly from what I see by a small minority of Christians.

This problem has always been there and not just in the USA, IMO this kind of BS does more harm to their faith than almost anything else, and it is becoming clear that one group is no better than any other, It reminds me of the BS comment I've heard so many times before IE I cant be a racist, because my brother, sister, father, knows a man who is black or white or whatever colour, and I talk to them just fine and they seem ok.

Usually as soon as i hear comments like that, a big huge sign appears on their heads with I don't really know anything about it, but I feel better trying to convince everyone, that what i feel inside cant really be discrimination.

Ever laughed at a racist joke? yes of course we have all of us in one way or another, do we laugh because we feel awkward? or because they are funny?

Problem is there is a massive line of people waiting to join this bandwagon, because they think its a way to be heard, stop using other peoples experiences as an excuse for your own insecurity, if you look deep into what is disturbing you, I think you would find your problem lies a lot closer to home than most of you are prepared to admit, and it is exactly that, your problem.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 06:33 AM by Question
reply to post by unnamedninja



I don't think you'd think the same way you were called derogatory names, pushed against a wall, and then punched to the ground because of your beliefs.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 08:13 AM by damwel
reply to post by jjkenobi



Don't tell me it's false. I was there and heard it with my own ears. It isn't false.I heard that screamed and worse.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:09 AM by mopusvindictus
reply to post by DimensionalDetective



I'd agree

But the worst culprit in America is the prison system which... allows/forces aggressive Alpha Males of all races into Tribes based on race, which of course is either encouraged or done nothing about because a prison population united could simply... overrun the joint

so what you have is, the toughest characters in America, regularly indoctrinated into Aryan nation, Black Islam or Hispanic Gang Tribes

The released back into society worse than when they went in to lead the violent racist brigade and keep us divided

so nothing will change

Until we change the prison system

Because the minute these guys get out they organize other violent types around them...


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:25 AM by neonine
reply to post by arcnaver



so your basically saying that if there racist so its ok for us to be racist to??

that's kinda ack bass words if you ask me


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:12 PM by Jkd Up
In prison, race can be used as a survival tool yes. But if you look at the Aryian Brotherhood (known actual members of 5) and such, this was going on before prision. Be it grass roots or believing what good ol grandpappy did... It doesn't make it right. There will always be extremsists. Forever! There's nothing we can do about that.

The sad thing that I'm seeign now is that race is becoming the issue. It used to be there, but subtle. Now, it's THE issue This precidential race made it that way. If it was a white guy and a Mexican, or a black guy and an Asian... It would have been the same. THAT'S what's sad about this.

And now that the winner is declared and the banners and balloons have been tossed out, America is showing it's true colors. We are not the tolerant country that we claim to be. Heck, we're not even close!

I hate to liken it to this cos I'll realisticly draw fire for it, but perhaps a few will know what I mean by comparing it to the First Crusade.

Back then you either followed the Pope and what the Vatican stated or you were the enemy. there was no exceptions, even other Catholics were killed. Now, it's the same thing. The people are fanatical. And that's not going to help us as a nation with the world looking at us with this monumentious election.

I feel truely ashamed to be here. It wold be much easier to be in another country watching it on television, but the easy way is not going to get anything done. We need to be toerant now more than ever. We are sitting on a powder keg of problems in racism and only cooler heads can prevail.

We already had one seperation of the Union because of this... Let's not repeat it!


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:40 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Sonya610



We catch more flack for it because we try to hold ourselves to a higher standard ethically and morally. It is as it should be. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard.



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:56 PM by mopusvindictus
reply to post by Jkd Up



It's always "gone on"

Just like there has always been Germs but your not going to get them unless your exposed

But it's not all that common for people Prior to getting in trouble to join up with these groups, i.e. most young Males aren't at 18 signing up for the Brotherhood, but go to Jail and you HAVE TO
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