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Originally posted by astron1000
My God, some of you people are just plain lunatics.
You are so angry that Obama won, and your egos have been so wrapped up in the right-wing that you feel a part of you has died with his win. You've identified so strongly with a single ideology that having lost somehow means you have been personally affronted.
You think politics is a goddamn football game, with one team scoring over the other and "winning" or "losing" points. That's absolutely idiotic.
I think Republicans have some good ideas. I think Democrats have some good ideas. The reason that America is so divided is because some of you just can't let go. You just can't accept what IS and you go on fighting and fighting and thinking that you're ideas are the "right and true ones" and no one else has anything worthy to say, and you refuse to believe ANYTHING the "other" side says, no matter how much evidence is presented.
Grow up, get rid of your egos, work together and let's make this country great again. Together.
[edit on 19-11-2008 by astron1000]
A review of board minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project.
The Annenberg Foundation gave the project a $50 million grant to match local private funds to improve schools, and Ayers fought to bring the grant to Chicago, according to participants and project records.
The project's organizing committee asked Obama to serve as the board chairman in 1995. Annenberg Project Executive Director Ken Rollings said Ayers was not a member of that ad hoc group when the decision was made.
For seven years, Ayers and Obama -- among many others -- worked on funding for education projects, including some projects advocated by Ayers.
"The specific job of the board of directors was to give out the money," said Stanley Kurtz, a conservative researcher for the Ethics and Public Policy Center and frequent Obama critic.
"Instead of giving money directly to schools, they gave money to what they call external partners and these partners were often pretty radical community organizer groups," said Kurtz, who also has been reviewing the Annenberg Challenge's recently released records.
HONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
this has become a partisan issue.
Pro-Obama cheerleaders attack those who raise questions, intimating that anyone who queries this matter is naive
easily-led, moronic, stupid, etc, etc, and, worst of all, a CONSPIRACY THEORIST
Obama's refusal to pony up the evidence
Some of the Israeli press have discussed this issue.
Apparently, his grandmother in Kenya has talked about how proud she is, and that she was there at his birth in Kenya.
Originally posted by riggins44
I voted for Obama but I am curious why he is spending the amount of money and using DNC lawyers to supress showing it. Why not show it. We all have to at different times. He is not above that. Is this the transparency he claimed that his administration will have but now he has a team of lawers working to suppress showing the BC? This sound like Bushco.
He can shut everyone up by showing it but yet for whatever reason he does not and chooses to fight it out in court. WTF, that does seem a little odd. I do think a little of what we read in these threads are disgruntle Republicans but I will never understand how anyone can try and justify him not showing a BC, especially if you voted for him.
I like the guy but I do not have a man crush on him and he does not get pass from me. In fact, now I am suspicous and I will be pissed if he actually ran knowing he is not eligible and would want him removed from office. Over $600 million is what he spent on his campaign but it does not buy him eligibility in my mind.
Indonesian citizenship is given to:
1. A child born of the marriage of an Indonesian couple;
2. A child born of the marriage of an Indonesian man and foreign woman -- the status of which does not cause dual citizenship;
3. A child born of the marriage of a foreign man and Indonesian woman, both of whom request Indonesian citizenship for their child -- the status of which does not cause dual citizenship;
4. A child born to an unmarried Indonesian woman, the status of which does not cause dual citizenship;
5. A child born in Indonesian territory that is not provided with citizenship by his or her parents;
6. A child born in Indonesian territory whose parents are unknown;
7. A child born in Indonesian territory whose parents have no citizenship.
Source: Draft revision of citizenship law No. 62/1958