Why do I have to register for the Selective Service System?!?!, page 7
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reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 09:21 AM by Polarbear6
reply to post by RexxCrow



Yeah, just ask Michael New about fighting for your country. Remember him? He's the guy who refused to wear the blue UN beret and was court martialed as a result. He was tarred and feathered for stating it was a violation of his Oath of Service. www.mikenew.com...

Enjoy-Polarbear6


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 10:13 AM by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by Enigma Publius



I agree but the wars we are in now are all run and begun on lies...Iraq and Afghanistan, just going to mention, that this would never be needed if Ron Paul could have been president because homeland security would be top notch and the Usa wouldn't try to be the police of the world and start unnecassary beef with other countries which in the end I might end up fighting and dieing in. Noninterventionism ftw!



reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 10:29 AM by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by Swatman



See...thats another thing if it was to defend the homeland I wouldn't mind but to go over to some other country and have the government that certain people are my enemies I feel that's wrong. But hell, if they are attacking my home and the Usa I would be willing to fight in the US. Nonintervention ftw!


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 10:49 AM by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by Swatman



Afghanistan or anything after 9/11 have not been but then again I believe 9/11 was an inside job...but I guess that's a whole other topic. Since I believe the Bush administration I believe did 9/11 then after 9/11 they just dumped a video tape of an Arab(Osama, Trained by the CIA) and blamed it on the guy in the video and tagged him as the enemny/terrorist. But thats off topic I guess.

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reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 10:50 AM by Swatman
reply to post by SonsOfAnarchy



yup because nothing makes george bush happier then killing 3k americans to support his agenda known as iraq. please.


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 10:55 AM by SonsOfAnarchy
reply to post by Swatman



Yay for the socialist agenda?? I don't trust Obama...I would have voted for Ron Paul and hopefully in the next election someone that shares his views will come along and gain some mainstream media time so it can be a fair election.

And are you implying every other country has a #y army/navy/technology??

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reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 11:14 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by SonsOfAnarchy



ok look if you dont do it you run the risk of not getting a government job,thats cool if you dont want one but I have served my country for the past 6 years and everybody 18 years has done this. so your welcome for your freedom son!

68W SPC Lopez 184th


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 12:01 PM by maybereal11
Fill out the forms.

If and when a draft is instituted and you are selected you may at that time claim you are a conscientous objector....if in fact you are. Keep in mind that the President and Congress determine the wars we fight not you, so Conscientous Objection to a specific conflict is not valid. You must be able to demonstrate that it is and has been your moral or religious stance that you are opposed to all wars.

"I ain't got no quarrel with the Viet Cong." – Muhammad Ali, 1966

en.wikipedia.org...
Conscientious objector
Currently, the U.S. Selective Service System states, "Beliefs which qualify a registrant for conscientious objector status may be religious in nature, but don't have to be. Beliefs may be moral or ethical; however, a man's reasons for not wanting to participate in a war must not be based on politics, expediency, or self-interest. In general, the man's lifestyle prior to making his claim must reflect his current claims."[23] In the US, this applies to primary claims, that is, those filed on initial SSS registration.

Advice to Conscientious Objectors Facing Draft Registration
peace.mennolink.org...


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 12:45 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by SonsOfAnarchy



Register. And keep your passport handy, your bags packed and some cash under your mattress. Or, just move to another country now and establish your life there. That is the only way to escape the legal necessity of registration.

Actually, I think that if you clue the selective service guys in about this website, you will probably be given an exemption. However, when (if?) you leave their office, don't go home. Ever. Don't call or write home, either. What you have already written here will be deemed sedition. The internet never forgets.

The problem with that is that most of the countries that aren't willing to help the US (ie; send soldiers to the same conflicts) are the target of the conflict. Do you want to defend what is right against superior firepower or do you want to be part of that superior firepower doing what is wrong?

I'm NOT saying "America, love it or leave it". I'm saying "America, love it or fix it". Although I admire your website (I've probably read 10-15 pages before getting to this one), by and large, we have grown up spineless.

The shooting of protesters should be met, not with cluck-clucking, but with larger, protests. But they never are. So the rich and the powerful continue to win because they can mobilize federal, state and local militias against their own citizens. Just a few deaths keeps the rest in line. At the moment they are demonstrating their ability to abuse enlisted personnel by keeping them in Iraq and Afghanistan for extended periods. From time to time they admit fatalities ... but not enough to get people too horribly upset. The bodies now arrive after dark and are de-planed in a far-off corner of the airfield, away from prying eyes ... eyes that can count.

By outsourcing so much to poorer lands, they have taken the risk of a general strike off the table. By putting up a giant (and growing) network of cameras along the roads, they have used our own money to relieve us of freedom of association and movement and a great deal of our privacy in that who we associate with should not be logged in some data bank for use against us even years later.

Obama's election came at a good time. A week long general strike right now might actually do so good. But, even though he is a puppet manipulated by the same strings that have attached to every President since Andrew Jackson, people will look to him hopefully -- thinking that, by 'change', he meant improvement.

He might have ... but the people pulling the strings didn't.

Spines? Spaghetti.


reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 01:07 PM by Subversive_Populous
reply to post by maybereal11



Good luck, a lot of people try this and fail. Wasnt there a whole court case involving a young marine about this. Arent some people killing themselves in Iraq because they object to war and their religion doesnt approve-maybe they didnt know they could just ask and get to go home. Its there is plain type but I dont know that it works in real life, everyone would do this rather than "deserting" or leaving the country to avoid being deployed.

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