Why do I have to register for the Selective Service System?!?!

reply to post by jerico65

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By "we" what do you mean??

reply to post by jerico65

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I'd shoot at my own cops cos they can't shoot back. Doing something about them first means I'm not going to have to shoot at anyone else.

I'mnot going to risk my life for my government, and if they want to make me, they are going to be risking their lives to do so- trust me.

[edit on 11/12/2008 by Good Wolf]

reply to post by SonsOfAnarchy

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Here are a couple of quotes from the movie on the difference.

"A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not."

and this one, just replace 'human race' with the USA.

"A citizen has the courage to make the safety of the human race their personal responsibility."

Having said all that, I believe that things like service and voting are duties and responsibilities we all share.

Well, now, that's mighty brave of you.

reply to post by Wolf321

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The book is much better than the movie, but the movie was pretty good.

I mean, co-ed showers? Now, who can argue about that?

Sign up for the Selective Service System.
If you get drafted the night before your induction physical just eat a 5 pound bag of sugar.
you will show up the next day on the blood test they give you as a diabetic.

it worked for every one of the guys in the high school (1970)I went to that wanted to beat the draft.

drinking a large bottle of karo syrup two hours before your induction physical also works to fake diabetes
www.karosyrup.com...

reply to post by jerico65

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I'mnot going to risk my life for my government, and if they want to make me, they are going to be risking their lives to do so- trust me.


Well, to be fair, if it were a just war then I'd certainly be far more motivated to fight but they are few and far between. Take Iraq and Afghanistan for instance, there is no way in hell they would get me shipped over there I can tell you.

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Yeah, I just read that in your previous post. Good luck, tough guy. Hope you can back up your big words with action. Having known a fair amount of NZ Soldiers, I think it's going to end badly, and with tears, on your part.

But hey, don't let me stop you! Give it a shot (so to speak).

reply to post by ANNED

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Sounds like a good idea...I bet they didnt sleep that whole night either lol

Every male citizen of the United states of america has to fill fill out the selective service info after they turn 18. Its the law. I filled one out too.

It doesnt mean you have to join the army or anything like that. As far as I know it is just there incases they ever decide to bring the draft back.

All males fill it out at 18 so just incase they need to there will be a whole pool of people they can draft.

I dont think you have anything to worry about. The volunteer army has worked just fine. We have no shortage of people wanting to sign up for military duty voluntarily.

Every now and again you hear that congress wants to reconsider bringing the draft back but they never do, like I said our all volunteer army is working just fine.

No need to worry. Just think of it as a right of passage. It is part of becoming a legal adult for men.

You can also register to vote now. Just hope you dont get jury duty. It is awful, Id rather get drafted Im kidding of course.

[edit on 12-11-2008 by gimme_some_truth]

I just missed the vietnam war draft but my older brother was of age.
They used a lottery system so when registering they have all these kids birthdays. The lottery pulls a day and then if it's a match with your bday then you're called up/notified to show up for your physical.
Just tell them you have a history of seizures on one side of your family.

Many of you are probably too young to recall this but in '67 Mohammad Ali, was drafted and refused to go saying " I aint got no quarrel with those VietCong". But technically claiming it was against his muslim faith, called a conscientious objector. Due to the laws, and moreso to make an example of hiim, He was charged with "draft evasion" , fined $10,000. (which at the time more than paid for a new 427 Corvette) and sentenced to 5 years in prison. Thru legal manipulations he avoided the prison time but Worst yet, he was stripped of his boxing title so he couldn't box any longer in the USA except for Georgia. He did later in life get his title back when he was close to retirement.

reply to post by nh_ee

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Thanks for the Alil history...good to know.

If you were a popular movie star you could do what John Wayne did and get a note from your doctor.... He was rated as 4-F.... Some of the guys beat the draft during Vietnam (67%) by joining up. I stayed out of the Army by joining the Marines and registered for the draft after I did a tour in Vietnam. They were using the lottery system, and drafting 19 year old's. My birthday was the second number called up and I didn't have to go, of course they don't draft 19 year old disabled veterans....See? There is more than ways than faking to beat the draft board, you just have to be creative. _javascript:icon('')

Millions have registered before you and millions will registor after you. Just do it and I imagine you will forget about it a week or so afterwards, like I did. Of course a year later I enlisted and haven't ever been happier. That was 13 years ago.

I join the navy to beat the draft and having to go to vietnam.

I put in for minesweeps and ended up in vietnam sweeping the mines out of Haiphong harbor north vietnam

At least i did not end up sleeping in a fox hole.

Does everyone think they get to live in this country for free? Register with Selective Services, pay taxes, and be a citizen. Fasci....errrr...freedom isn't free!

reply to post by ANNED

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Marines don't dig foxholes, or sleep in them. We did dug fighting holes when manning lines at fire support bases or were tied down by duty at other static positions.

Notice on their own website how they fail to cite or reference any actual law for you to review, bells and whistles should be going off right about now. This is because there is no law, registering for the draft is voluntary, obtaining a SSN is voluntary, with very few exceptions. One thing to keep in mind that the use of the term “United States” in relation to federal law, does not mean the several states of the Union, unless specifically included in the term defined.

Also notice in the opening of your letter (besides failing to cite any Section of federal law at all) “and one may be required to register with Selective Service”, well either you are or you are not, right? How are you to know if you are, they failed to tell you that you legally are required to register with them. Again, bells and whistles, bells and whistles.

Though keep in mind once you do register with the Selective Service System, you are on the hook, under a binding contract. The only thing that may effect you for not registering is you may be denied government grants for higher education, presuming you are not legally and actually one of the ones so required to register of course.


[edit on 12-11-2008 by RexxCrow]

reply to post by RexxCrow

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In the second paragraph they say you can be punished for not registering by a fine or imprisonment so that kind of does make it a requirement and I must say I love the last sentence in the second paragraph "Our objective is to register you, not to have you prosecuted." Well...obviously you want me to register since you give me no choice by threatening me with a quarter million dollar fine or jail.

reply to post by CreeWolf

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So it's only free for women, illegal immigrants(to an extent), everyone under the age of 18 and over the age of 26, to those who work for the government, politicians who have never served in the army, and many more...yup I understand I'm suppose to do what the government tells me and when it comes to this topic I have no freedom of choice.