Seducing Others With Mind Control

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posted on Jun, 25 2005 @ 04:03 PM
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dgtempe seems rather confident in being able to perform these feats.

Now the question of whether dgtempe is lying or is it real.
However, the odds for it being real are not very good...




posted on Jun, 25 2005 @ 08:29 PM
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I am NOT a liar!

I'm NOT
I'm NOT * composes self*

I meant what i say. I will dedicate today and tomorrow to thinking of a fellow poster...hmmm...nobody on this thread at all. If i get a u2u, i will share it with you. ok?
I dont know how else to prove this to you.
geez, i'm not a liar.



posted on Jun, 25 2005 @ 08:41 PM
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This may turn out to be a lame experiment- I dont know if the person i am thinking of will even be around to communicate something to me. I will try.



posted on Jun, 25 2005 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by JBurns

Originally posted by TheBandit795
And there are other message groups on the internet with people's experiences with those techniques.


I'm interested in hearing if any ATS members have tried this.


Mods don't qualify as ATS members?



posted on Jun, 25 2005 @ 10:22 PM
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean it in that way. You mentioned how someone from another site said they tried it or something. I mean, based on people here at ATS.



posted on Jun, 26 2005 @ 10:09 AM
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People lie all the time, I do it constantly. Everyone does...

However, I mean lying in terms of "I felt something" when you really didnt, for whatever reason, being pure attention-getting to almost believing fully something occured that didnt.

And most of them are not concious lies either.

Unfortunently, this experiment will have to be repeated enough to weed out any possiblily that its sheer coinicidence, meaning we must know this person has never U2U'ed you before, or not in a great while, or pick someone who doesnt know about this, and Jburn or I will ask him..

Getting evidence isnt simple, however, this would be unnerving to hear "Oh, I just suddenly felt like U2Uing dgtempe today, for the first time in 2 months."

That would be most unusual, wouldn't it?

(I would hope we dont have to worry about either parties purposely falsifying reports just to feel special or make the experiment sound successful, I hope.)



posted on Jun, 26 2005 @ 11:08 AM
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Its been a month since this person u2u'd me. I'm trying, but who knows. Even if this person doesnt pick up my thoughts, that doesnt mean this doesnt work. give me a break
This is typing, this is ATS, this is a sign
in name, i cant even picture the person...in fact, id be shocked if it did work.
By the way, several people have already u2u'd me asking if they are it.

I'm very honest- Only the targeted person will do.


So.....we will see.



posted on Jun, 26 2005 @ 01:38 PM
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*Scratches head*


Well, we'll see what happens....

If anything happens..



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 01:47 AM
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Nice seduction technique...I will be trying this on my sister first thing in the morning.



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 07:17 AM
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Well, believe it or not......I can tell you all that is is completely TRUE....

Yes!!!!.....,You CAN do it, and Yes, it does work....

I know this because some-one is currently doing it to me.....But dy know what?....

I tire of it.......Because in Real-Life, he is a Chick.....chick ....Chicken



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 11:00 AM
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The ability to 'stream' comfort and pleasure sexually is very real. This is a form of 'beta' programming, its a sexual conditioning combined sometimes with psionic abilities. For those that have been programmed and groomed with this gift, i ask you this: how can you strategically use it to change the world? If you think this gift ends with simple pleasure your wrong, you can stream emotion, feeling and desire with it.. you can change peoples viewpoints when properly developed. This is fact. Imagine having a live target such as cspan on tv or a congressional hearing. One could easily influence the hell out of them remotely and undetectably.. The soviets spent millions researching it as did the states... if you wonder how i know this, lets just say governments love grooming people for there own malicious needs.

If i wasnt so dumb id be rich... but then again ive never been a sell out... IF there was a righteous country to serve, id be the most patriotic at doing so.. but as it stands, this world sickens me to pieces.. i piss on it..

regards,
the fanatical



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 05:04 PM
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So, you can, but you wont.....

And we are just suppose to......uh...believe your word....

This is why proof is nice...



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by fanatical_radical1974
For those that have been programmed and groomed with this gift,


So, Fans......

Are you saying that not 'ALL' can do this???



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Raideur
So, you can, but you wont.....

And we are just suppose to......uh...believe your word....

This is why proof is nice...


Proof?.......

How can you prove something like this......Its Just Not Tangiable....Its not 'provable'.....You cant 'see' it, only the people 'Involved' can 'Feel' it.....How can you prove this....., Tell, me???....What proof would you be happy with?

again



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 05:29 AM
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Jac, everyone has the potential to remotely influence/view. However not everyone without development of this gift can.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 05:39 AM
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Raideur,

What kind of proof would you need? Pick a live newscast say cnn/fox news a day and a time. Im near michigan so make sure its eastern time. Make sure the news person is a female and watch her reactions.

regards,

The fanatical



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by fanatical_radical1974
Raideur,

What kind of proof would you need? Pick a live newscast say cnn/fox news a day and a time. Im near michigan so make sure its eastern time. Make sure the news person is a female and watch her reactions.

regards,

The fanatical


Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah


You can make her suddenly become horny for you, well she is on TV?

I can't stop laughing at that idea, some geeky guy at home "influencing" a woman on TV for everybody to see.

You actually think that is proof?



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 03:43 PM
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Could you remotely influence me? Perhaps.

Course Im not a female, and I might be a skeptical rock of a mind, but your sure of yourself. Perhaps in a few days I will get myself a webcam and you can have everything needed.

Or perhaps pick someone else on ATS.

I dont know know any Michigan female news reporters, but someone from ATS should do. Perhaps dgtempe?



posted on Jul, 3 2005 @ 05:51 AM
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Ksnazdnzon, i posted a very valid experiment to try and 'prove' to you that remote influencing is a reality. You now mock me and accuse me of being a geek. lol My problem is i shoot my mouth off too much, i should be listening instead of flapping my yapper all the time... Whether you believe in psionic abilities or not is not my concern. Do a lil research and you'll see just how far the military has researched this.



posted on Jul, 3 2005 @ 04:01 PM
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It is sociopathic behavior to seduce someone actions or beliefs.

That is not to say it is uncommon,
Advertisers use Mountains of it trying to sell products,
Political promoters use huge amounts of it trying to manipulate people,
heck, kids use the playing off of Mom against Dad as a means of improving the odds of getting their own way.

The only kind of influence that isn't sociopathic, is that which presents an idea in a clean, purely [as possible] intellectual manner, allowing the subject to make as rational a determination about it.
But since the presenter is a living being they can not help but have a bias, even if they don't realize it. The fact that they have spent time and energy to present the idea, means an investement has already been made, so always be cautious.

The perfectly untainted ideas are those that come from observing the inert world around you. Those things that react but make no effort to appeal to you by accessing you through your mind.

Sociopaths abound and often rise to the very top of society.

Politicians have to be glad handers at the very least and complete phony liars at the worst.

Sales people will often say anything, even lies, to get you to buy a product.

Party zealots will tell you only the things you want to hear that will get their candidate elected and not tell you all the things you don't want to hear.

Many of the very richest people consider themselves super salesmen.
The art of persuasion is at the very heart of sales.

At this point in time they have isolated chemicals such as oxytocin (sp?) that creates a feeling of love in the brain,
So talking about manipulating people as some kind of dependable learned skill while ignoring underlying biology is pretty silly IMO.

The real art is gauging the suseptibility of a given subject to persuasion so as to use your time and energy most effectively.
The subject is at the heart of persuasion.
Are they consistently open to you or just when the mood is appropriate?
Are they naive enough to take what you say as gospell and will it therefore stick permanently or at least for a prolonged period? Or will they fall away from it 20 minutes after you have convinced them?
What is the social context of the subject? Will they be challenged, treated neutrally or have your implant re-inforced by the social environment in which they live?

A little pointer, sexually repressed males are much more open to suggestion that targets via sexual inuendo than those who are not.

The idea that people are not individually variable during different time periods and that individuals vary a great deal from one another is foolish.

Sadly enough the people most vulnerable to mind control are victims of early sexual abuse, especially if they have been made to feel worthless consistently over time. They have such low expectations that the investment of time and energy is very minimal, and they are held at arms length by society. So like the predator that culls the weak and the vulnerable from the herd, they are already outside the mainstream.

I don't know if any comparative studies have been done but it might be almost the same without the sexual abuse, as long as the person is made to feel worthless at a young age and consistently and from all directions getting the same response of being worthless.
It is the absolute, disgust and contempt with which people regard sex that makes it tend to be a cinch in our modern society.
Slaves in societies where this was the norm can and tend to be psychologically sculpted and selected to suborn themselves to others. If a slave is excessively rebelious and can not escape they are confined or killed.

What you are really looking for is an easily maleable mind. That is why many influence pedalers target children, because they are in such an unfixed state. But adults are still quite maleable if they are under the right conditions.

The truth is we are all essentially worthless to the Universe and beyond, yet of infinite importance to ourselves individually, and sometimes of some worth to some portion of the rest of the species. Further complications are what is the worth of a given [your] species?

You even have to be wary of ideas presented in an apparently unbiased way.
Also ideas that 'we are only doing for your own good' are another warning flag.
We [government, religion, sometimes even family] know better what is right for you than you do. Be very skeptical about proposals and make sure you can and do ask lots of questions.
I think the only people without an agenda are the dead, and im not completely sure about that.

As fairly sophisticated mentalities in a social context we are almost inately sociopathic. That doesn't have to necessarily be bad though. We choose which social/personal settings in which attempt to draw or not draw attention to ourselves. We craft our speech to fit the person to whom we are speaking. We speak differently over an entire matrix of variations depending on the relationship between ourselves and our audience:
One or many people?
Who agree, disagree, don't care, don't know?
What is the combined social relationship of both them and us?

If you really wanted the technology to instantly suborn a person to you or your ideas it would be to flash disperse the solvent chemistry of the brain and then you could probably just tell them what to do and not do.

If there are advanced aliens that is probably what they use.
Just as we tranquilize animals only what they would do would be much more effective.
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