Originally posted by Gazrok
Have you seen this show? Kind of boring, but one of the "suitors" is using mind control, and rather effectively so far...

From what I've heard, the guy is more into the whole Ross Jeffries seduction thing.

Not all folks who look like complete losers 'are' losers and maybe that is why they "get the hot babes" I don't think you can 'keep' someone throu mind control, wouldn't you have to do it on a regular basis then? I'm sure it can be done once to someone in a nightclub or something...but then what? They wake up and say "holy cow how and why did I do that with you?" Then maybe they go home and try and forget what they did.

Mind control can only be played on the 'weak' and that's what I think..or maybe on someone whose had one too many drinks? It's just a game unless you are extremely telepathic, in which case I don't see too many folks like that running about in everyday life. And then even so, I doubt very seriously that such people are using it to gain someone else physically...but then I could be completely wrong?

Also Questor~If you are attractive or unusual looking then your scenerio makes sense as to why the guy at the eatery may have chased you down...most people with stunning looks(not necessarily gorgeous now) just stunning can have THAT affect on members of the opposite sex...or like you said maybe it was all in his mind


*interesting topic thou*
Magestica

Also Questor~If you are attractive or unusual looking then your scenerio makes sense as to why the guy at the eatery may have chased you down...

I never thought of it that way. I thought it was a fluke telepathic ability. hehe.

I should also mention that you have to drive from the eatery to the mall. They were not on the same premises.

Why is everybody just bashing him? He just provided another method that men can use to get women. Sure it may not be the fastest way, but how is this any different than using your conscious mind to get women? When you talk, you use words to seduce them as well. This may come as a surprise to some of you, but ALL men just want to get laid, and they will do anything to make it happen. Whether its using mind control, to being smooth, to having confidence, to looking good, anything to get women.

I think someone mentioned Ross Jeffries. That guy is amazing. He talks about the best ways to get laid. It all has to do with them wanting YOU, and sometimes it isnt pretty. Things like acting slightly like an asshole, being late to dates, never calling on time, not acting too interested, and so on. A lot of men would use these methods and few would have a problem using them.
But all of a sudden someone mentions "mind control" and everyone goes crazy. I can tell some of you havent even read it all, such as people saying that you have to keep on "mind controlling" them for the rest of the time. lol haha i dont know about you, but as i read this, it didnt seem so "out there". lemme explain.

It said to keep a positive attitude and keep practicing knowing that it will work. It said that doubt will prevent it from working and with practice and time, it will be easier. It said to be friendly with the person and dont come on to them. These things made me THINK, unlike some people. Maybe it works because it increases ur self-confidence, and "women can smell that from 50-years away" right? Being friendly and not advancing on them makes them to want to come to YOU. It even said if they start flirting with you, dont jump the gun, just keep calm and act friendly, not flirtatious. Reading from Ross Jeffries, maybe they expect you to flirt with them after they flirt with you, but if u dont, you are acting unexpectadly and this confuses them, making yourself more interesting to know. Its kind of hard to explain, but im doing the best i can. Well then as you get more and more women using this method, you gain more confidence in yourself, and women can "smell" that confidence, which in turn gives you more women. So really, in reality you are just "mind controlling" yourself (really more of meditation, but that word makes more sense to the ignorant people). Also, if you say something to yourself over and over in your subconcious, you will end up believing it. In conclusion, I think this may be a good way for some men to gain confidence within themselves, for those who have tried other methods that havent worked.
Peace

.......*throws hands up into the air*

Any of you folks or mods wish to take a wild guess what Im going to say?

I bet someone gets it right.

Originally posted by Raideur
.......*throws hands up into the air*

Any of you folks or mods wish to take a wild guess what Im going to say?

I bet someone gets it right.

Yep, Prove it to me because I think it's a lie to impress you.

Did I get it right?

i was moreso going to squak at the sheer content of the arguement, but yes,

Show me the proof anyone could do this outside of normal physics.

Mr. Raidure.

Why do you always want others to prove it to you.
Do a little reasearch on your own. If you need a nice tidy format, call it reasearch into human dynamics.
I know that the hard sciences are your forte; try a little anthropology on for size; you might like it.

Peace my brother

[edit on 22-6-2005 by whaaa]

You cant possibly know everything on these subjects. And I've looked into many of them, and turn up bunk. I dont attempt my own experiments bcause I know the outcome will be exactly what common sense implies, and those that I did try, turns out most of the time, people are lying through their teeth, or simply are lying without knowing it.

For the record, this arguement during the first 2 pages was pretty sad...
Makes me want to distribute anti emotional pills to the population.

[edit on 22-6-2005 by Raideur]

This is morally wrong... your seducing people that may or may not want it (And if they do want it, it's probably because your mind already overpowered their will)

Assuming this all works

Originally posted by Raideur
You cant possibly know everything on these subjects. And I've looked into many of them, and turn up bunk.

So what is your purpose?

If you have already done the research and have come up with nothing but bunk then why continue? Do you not realize that you are being controlled to answer to these topics and specific threads, is that not paranormal?

I assume that something paranormal has happened to you and you just can't explain it away so now you seek an answer that you will try to deny.

Prove to me otherwise.

For using mind control to get a girl, all I see is dark purpose coming from the guy. It's just wrong to influence someone that way.
If you want a date, be confident go in thinking you'll win. Take it slow, girls don't like the ones that rush. And be honest and have some manners for goodness sake.

I am going to offer a little advice here.

Before you use any of these techniques ask yourself the following question: "If someone I would never touch did this to me how would I feel?"

If you can honestly, deep down in your guts, say you would not mind then go right ahead.

Otherwise, don't.

Unless you are ok with having it done to you then you are asking for trouble. Not from some mythical Diety but from yourself. When we know we have done wrong we make ourselves suffer for it.

There are plenty of ways to use visualization and other things mentioned in the article to improve your romantic efforts. If anyone would like to discuss that sort of thing start a Thread and I will show up.


A.T
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I agree with Alexandar Tau..........I don't think that people realize that the act of visualizing and socialization are two different things and without practice, your nefarious intents will undoubtedly show all over your expression, hindering efforts.........not to mention the morality dilemma you may incur if you are prone to anything of the sort.

The technique expressed in the first page are better applied to becoming a wittier, more enjoyable person........once you take care of yourself, the subsequent self-confidence that you exude will take care of the rest......

Originally posted by Raideur
You cant possibly know everything on these subjects.

That's the hundredth or so time you have said that.......why don't you get started learning all that you can and save that type of conversation for fifty years from now, when we'll be more concerned with the fact that we would rather know nothing.........

[edit on 23-6-2005 by MemoryShock]

heheh, where did lupe go? i liked his style lol

Bah, this entire topic is about not only using something that cannot be proven and has no rational basis, but also about using it to furfill a pathetic emotional drive. Even worse would be for a simply sexual instintual drive, which is even more pathetic on the part of whoever is unable to control themselves.

Everyone should be able to curve their emotions and urges, even remove them from the situation if needed. If you are unable to do that, then you are simply a pawn of your own subconcious mind, and no one knows what that thing wants.

Originally posted by Raideur
Bah, this entire topic is about not only using something that cannot be proven and has no rational basis, but also about using it to furfill a pathetic emotional drive. Even worse would be for a simply sexual instintual drive, which is even more pathetic on the part of whoever is unable to control themselves.

Everyone should be able to curve their emotions and urges, even remove them from the situation if needed. If you are unable to do that, then you are simply a pawn of your own subconcious mind, and no one knows what that thing wants.

Ha. I agree.

I think the proper term for someone who is a slave to their own love or hate would be a Weak Minded Fool.

Woaw now...

We should never be slaves to hate, but Love is another matter entirely. It is worth giving yourself up to, for, and in all ways more.


A.T
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I think his point is anyone who adheres to their emotional reactions........love and hate both being passionate responses.......