Originally posted by Mercenary2007
Your right but your wrong also. she can never become a U.S. Citizen again. But Obama Could become a naturalized Citizen when he turned 18. If he moved back to the U.S. took the oath of allegence before the attorny general or an immigration judge. which we know he moved back to the U.s. Before the age of 18. because his mother sent him back to Hawaii when he was 10.
No. I'm not wrong. You said that with Ms. Dunham renouncing her US citizenship, she would "by default" do the same for Obama. That is what is wrong, not what I explained based on that.
As for Obama becoming naturalized, well that would be convenient, wouldn't it? If he is a naturalized citizen, how hard is it to find out?
Would US Immigration keep silent amidst these allegations if Obama were anything but a citizen of the US? Doesn't US Immigration and Customs have laws to enforce? Cases to investigate? It doesn't need Berg to file a lawsuit in order to launch its own investigations -- ESPECIALLY for someone questionable running for POTUS!
The more questions one asks, the more ridiculous this case turns out to be.
Obama didn't need a passport to enter Indonesia. remember Lolo returned to Indonesia before Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia. By the time Obama arrived in Indonesia Lolo had already claimed him as his son making him a citizen, and had enrolled him in school there.
What country allows entry without a passport? Even babies need passports. That's what's so outrageous about the Kenya birth angle. Baby Obama's birth would have had to be registered in Kenya in order for the baby to get a Kenyan passport to enter the United States. If there was a US consulate for Nairobi at the time, maybe Ms. Dunham could have obtained a US passport for baby Obama; I don't know for sure. But whichever the case, Ms Dunham would not have been allowed to enter the US without a Kenyan or US passport for the new baby.
And there is no rational reason why any Hawaiian hospital would commit fraud on her behalf by registering a birth that really didn't happen there. It's such an inane idea.
And young Obama wouldn't have been able to leave the US for Indonesia without a US passport either.
Like I respectfully said already, you have more homework to do.
Its wasn't that hard to get a social security card back then. remember Obama already had a certificate of live birth with the name barrack Obama on it.
Yes, but it would have been invalidated by a new Indonesian birth certificate. Proof of birth would have been required; no doubt the original birth certificate would have been confiscated by Indonesian officials and invalidated. Or, a new Hawaiian birth certificate bearing the name "Barry Soetoro" would have been issued, and the old one invalidated by Hawaiian officials. Either way the original would have been invalidated.
But that Certificate was abtained by fraud. Obama's mother went to Kenya to visit Barrack Sr. when she tried to return to the U.S. the airline told her they wouldn't allow her to fly because she was to far along in her pregnancy. (airlines don't like it when moms give birth on their planes) so after he was born she brought Obama to Hawaii and filed a late registration for a certificate of live birth.
Like I said, it's a far stretch to implicate a hospital with registering a birth that did not take place there. What would the hospital gain for doing such a thing. Or more ludicrous, do you really think that the Hawaiian Dept. of Health actually took part in fraud on baby Obama's behalf?
If Obama wasn't born in Kenya then why does his grandmother, half brother and sister say they were in the hospital room in Kenya when he was born? Why would they "lie" and say he was born in Kenya if he was Born in Hawaii?
Those comments have not been verified or sourced. Apparently they first appeared on a blog. Not even Berg has a clue where those comments originated. But for some reason he uses them anyway in his complaint. Not exactly smart, and definitely has the chance of garnering sanctions by a judge on the grounds that they are frivolous.
If Obama was born in Hawaii then why can't he and his sister keep which hospital he was born in straight. he says one hospital in his book. in an interview she says another. then a few years later when she is interviewed again she says it was the hospital that Obama Says in his book.
Have you forgotten that people make mistakes? His half-sister Maya is originally from Indonesia. She's forgiven for not knowing her Hawaiian hospitals well.
YOU want to elect this guy to be POTUS seriously? he is not a U.S. Citizen, he has pulled the wool over some many peoples eyes. be has committed fraud. his mother is guilty of fraud as well.
You sound like Berg. Unproven premises backed by necessarily false conclusions. Whatever, if you cannot have a decent discussion about FACTS.
Oh well your entitled to your vote just as i'm entitled to mine. And at least i can research a candidates eligibility to run or not.
Yet another personal attack. How predictable. Didn't matter that I began by showing you respect, did it? Typical behavior of some ATS members. Whatever.
But the record shows that I have put PLENTY research in. FYI, not that it would matter to you, but this thread is a spin-off of another. Again, whatever. I defer to the judge, yet call Berg's claims ludicrous.
Anyway, I've seen a blank Kenyan birth certificate in an anti-Obama video. But I have not seen a copy of the real
deal. Please, share with us -- if you can. 
