Obama (Barry Soetoro)Has Duel Citizenship? , page 1
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Topic started on 19-10-2008 @ 11:05 AM by MissysWorld
Okay..lets review..
Obama was born in Hawaii, which made him a citizen of the USA.
Obama's Mother married an Indonesian, & they moved to Indonesia.
Obama's step father adopted him. WHY????????
Because the law in Indonesia stated that only INDONESIAN CITZENS could go to PUBLIC schools. The law in Indonesia ALSO STATED that one could NOT HAVE DUEL CITIZENSHIP, and go to public schools, etc.
Barak Obama was adopted (name changed to Barry Soetoro)so he could become an Indonesian citizen, because THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY HE COULD HAVE GONE TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL, THAT WAS THE LAW.
HE HAD TO RENOUNCE HIS USA CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT HAVE DUEL CITIZENSHIP IN INDONESIA AND ATTEND INDONESIA PUBLIC SCHOOL. LOOK UP THE LAWS THERE.
Barack Obama became an INDONESIAN CITIZEN.
Duel citizenship was NOT allowed.
Duel citizenship IS ALLOWED IN THE USA,
BUT NOT IF your running for PRESIDENT of the United States.
READ THRU THIS LINK..half way down gives the laws, year of law in Indonesia, and how it pertains to marriages, children and school.
Its NOT that Obama was never a USA citizen. Its that he BECAME AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN...When did Barry Soetoro LEGALLY change his name back to Barack Obama?? Where is the PAPERWORK? Where are his HEALTH RECORDS, SCHOOL RECORDS?? McCain had to let reporters view ALL his records for 3 hrs..WHERE ARE BARACK OBAMA"S RECORDS?
My guess is that ALL his records list him as BARRY SOETORO, an INDONESIAN CITIZEN..Thats why he will not show his records!
Barry Soetoro attended Basuki School, a PUBLIC school in Indonesia.
He could NOT have attended a public school in Indonesia WITHOUT BEING AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN.
www.kabar-irian.com...
Article 2 Section 1 states that an American Citizen must be born here and have no loyalty to any other country. He is not eligible to be President if he is a duel citizen. He needs to prove that he did not become a citizen of Indonesia or that he renounced his citizenship. Will this be the thing that brings Senator Obama down.


[edit on 19-10-2008 by MissysWorld]


reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 11:08 AM by silo13
reply to post by MissysWorld



READ THRU THIS LINK


What link?
Your post has no working link.

I'd like to see one if you've got it.

thanks

Besides all that I still don’t think the people running the USA would have allowed Senator Obama to go this far if they thought there was any chance of him not being *legal*.
Just a bunch of last ditch throw in the kitchen sink attempts in my opinion.

thanks

...taps...

[edit on 19-10-2008 by silo13]


reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 11:16 AM by nj2day
DOh! Double post!

Fixt!

sorry




[edit on 19-10-2008 by nj2day]



reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 11:18 AM by nj2day
after reaching the age of 18, He would have been forced to chose between the two citizenships.

Its law.

www.factcheck.org...

You have been the victim of "spin" friend.

make sure you filter what you read/see/hear about these elections... there is enough propaganda out there from both parties to make you sick.

edit: Forgot to mention regaurding this :
He needs to prove that he did not become a citizen of Indonesia or that he renounced his citizenship

You are not allowed to decide your citizenship, or renounce your citizenship until you have reached the age of majority, or 18 years old.




[edit on 19-10-2008 by nj2day]


reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 01:24 PM by mythatsabigprobe
reply to post by MissysWorld



It really doesn't matter if he was granted citizenship in Indonesia through his adoptive father. It doesn't mean you lose your US citizenship. There's a formal process you have to go through to give up citizenship and a formal process the government has to go through to withdraw your citizenship. Just because one country doesn't recognize dual citizenship doesn't mean you lose your original citizenship.


reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 01:25 PM by jibeho
reply to post by nj2day



I think Hillary is still trying to stomp him. Waiting until the final hour is certainly more dramatic and would make her look like a saint. The Clinton's thrive on power and they don't like to lose. This is playing out just like a Hollywood movie. Oh what fun...


reply posted on 19-10-2008 @ 01:38 PM by redhatty
reply to post by nj2day



If the media, if court suepenas, many investigative bloggers, etc. cannot find the information, How is Hillary supposed to?

You first say
they have Vetted both candidates fully...


Then you say
The vetting process for presidential nominees is largely left up to the national media, and the competative primary season.

"Vetting" just means researching into one's past, evaluating and examining
their credentials. I don't believe there is a formal process for presidential nominees, but there may be at the party level.


But you don't even know if there is a process at the party level.

The fact is, there is very little that we really know about Obama, mainly because he has had a meteoric rise in politics. He has not been in any position for long enough to really have a record of anything.

Please don't misunderstand, I am not pro-McCain nor anti-Obama, I think they are both tools and we are scroomed either way.

But the fact of the matter is we just don't know enough about Obama, period.

An excerpt from a WSJ article
Aides claim Mr. Obama "has taken voluntary transparency steps" that allow "his constituents, the media and his political opponents to fully examine him." In reality, anyone questioning the approved story line is liable to be ignored, misled or even bullied. This isn't what reporters expected when Mr. Obama began campaigning for a "new politics" that would bring honesty and openness to government.

Walking the rows of media outlets at the Denver convention, I had no trouble finding reporters who complained the campaign was secretive and evasive. Ben Smith of Politico.com1 has written about Team Obama's "pattern of rarely volunteering information or documents, even when relatively innocuous." Politico asked months ago if Mr. Obama had ever written anything for the Harvard Law Review as a student. The Obama campaign responded narrowly, with a Clintonesque statement that "as the president of the Law Review, Obama didn't write articles, he edited and reviewed them." This month it turned out Mr. Obama had written an article -- but it was published a month before he became president.

Chasing the rest of Mr. Obama's paper trail is often an exercise in frustration. Mr. Obama says his state senate records "could have been thrown out" and he didn't keep a schedule in office. No one appears to have kept a copy of his application for the Illinois Bar. He has released only a single page of medical records, versus 1,000 pages for John McCain.

source

I, personally, do not theink that Obama has been vetted enough by any organization. And I don't think it is because of a lack of effort in researching him.
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