Originally posted by goathead
And do not come back with examples from the crusades or the inquisition (political and medieval catholic church policies of the time), these are not a part of the belief in Christ as savior.

How do you know that? If you do, how do you know that the terrible thing done to that girl was in the name of Mohammed?

Just go to any muslim nation and try stating your opinions on religion and see what happens.

I've been in a few Muslim nations and didn't have a problem talking to people I met.

Originally posted by Ironclad
Quite simply, the Muslims need to re-write the Koran & bring it into the modern era. THey are still reading a book written in the Barbaric Middle Ages.

Here here. A lot of religions need to do this with there old texts.

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I was going to reply to JasonT yesterday, but as I read through his posting I just became more and more upset and chose to step back for the day.

If you are looking for someone who uses a religion as an excuse for "bad" behavior then he is it. Possibly he would not be one who would "set the girl on fire" but he is definitely one who would look the other way, as we can see in his own words.

My opinion is that he is someone who has low self esteem, and is using this religion to "pump" himself up. Men are born weak so therefor women should take responsibility for this? PPFFAAHHH, get real, take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming someone else for them. If YOU choose to do something, that is YOUR choice not someone else s choice.

For me this is a great example of those who have abusive personalities, and use something/anything as an excuse for their behavior, in this example they use religion. They are people who feel powerless, and so use something/anything to feel powerful and to feel they have some form of control.

I would think that any religion, could be "twisted" and "used" for the benefit of anyone in control of that information. Their is proof of this in humans history, and all the abuses committed in the name of some god/goddess (but usually a god) or other. It seems to be a sick form of control that certain people twist something that could be good into something black and nasty and "evil".

I would be interested in knowing of any religions that has a "god" that has not been twisted in some form or another in its history to create abuses and control upon the population in some manner. I don't know for sure as this world is full of religions, but I would guess it is almost impossible to find such a thing.

Another response to JasonT, get a real life man, stand up and take responsibility for your own actions, and stop blaming someone else for them, because it is your attitude and those that take that thinking pattern to the extreme that truly cause harm and hate and "evil" in this world.

Originally posted by amazed
Another woman claims it is normal. So? Just because something is "normal" does not mean it is not mutilation and abuse.

I watched the interviews with all of those women, they all said the same thing, "It's normal" because it was taught to them as being normal. NONE of them has ever experienced the well deserved sexual pleasure, how would they know aside from being taught(by a man, no doubt), but I'm sure the pain of childbirth will not be withheld from them. Only the men are allowed pleasure.

You speak without any rationality and fairness, and then you are asking others to do good! It is pitiful! Burning a human being, or any other living thing for that matter, is a grave sin against Islam. The fact that an ignorant and heartless man who claims to be a Muslim, or who is traditionally sealed as a Muslim (because his parents or ethnic community or society happens to have made the same claim) commits that does not mean (if you can think rationally) it is the teachings of Islam. I am a Muslim and I am against the barbaric and cruel killing mentioned, and it is because I follow the teachings of Islam. Here and now, I am sad and, actually disgusted, at your capacity for hating, and for becoming blindly irrational in your hatred! Don't claim to love anyone, please! People whose hearts are homes for hatred cannot love!

It could be high time that ´moderate´ islam issues a blanket statement about the issue of complete equality for women in society.
Hopefully this would detract from this heinous acts perpretrated in the name of islam by wahhabi extremists in many other countries around the world.
To criticise,condemn and denounce the sociopathic ,mysogynistic acts commited against women in the name of their faith would be a good first step.
Also actulay allowing women in mosques (and to be imans) would help.