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Girl set ablaze for wearing lipstick

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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by WatchNLearn
This is all about a filthy pedophile that couldn't get his way, so he uses the ONLY religion that condones this behavior to hide behind - ISLAM.

If there was no "honor killing" excuse, the pervert would have known that he wouldn't stand a chance to get away with such a murder. He would have had to plan a better murder, conspire to cover it up, etc., he might have changed his mind and the girl might not be in the condition she's in right now.

But because he had an "excuse", he was sure his actions would be justified by his religious zealot defenders and any punishment he would receive would be a slap on the wrist. He probably thought he'd also get pity for being "persecuted" for having such strong religious beliefs, maybe even glorified for his "high standards". Perverts like that live in a constant state of illusion.

He should never have had that ridiculous excuse in the first place.




posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:03 PM
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The article posted by the OP was extraordinarily vague. The title suggests that the young girl was set alight for wearing lipstick, although relatives say that she was set alight because he had attempted to molest her prior to being set on fire.

It could have been possible that he was angered at being denied sexual gratification, and didn't want anyone to find out, so went through with this act. It's great how a short article by western media can all of a sudden make a lot of Islamic people look bad. I thought you guys could see through this crap. Some of you guys might be secretly racist....Or maybe just very racist.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by verylowfrequency
I guess in India they equate lipstick with whores and prostitutes and I find this not dissimilar to the thread about the 15 year old girl who's pushed the limits of her sexuality in Ohio. The only difference is they didn't get to burn her they just called her a whore and praised her prosecution for child porn.

Exactly, they didn't "get to" burn her because they would not have been given leniency here in America because we don't TOLERATE that punishment, even though it's their belief to do so. I hope we never do, but if this religion ever dominates America the way Christianity does, we may. Religious beliefs, in large enough numbers, spills over onto government laws, as seen in other countries.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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But relatives told news channels the man had tried to molest the girl and had set her on fire when she objected. his defense will be he was just doing what the prophet Mohamed did ... all muslims think its ok to have sex with children....



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:07 PM
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Marriage (as disturbing as I personally find legalized pedophilia and pederasty are within Islam) and harassment are two separate issues. If he was molesting her, Muslims would certainly not think it was "ok".

[edit on 19-10-2008 by Oscitate]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by fatdad
But relatives told news channels the man had tried to molest the girl and had set her on fire when she objected. his defense will be he was just doing what the prophet Mohamed did ... all muslims think its ok to have sex with children....


I don't think 'ignorant' is the right word for you.i think racist sounds better.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by fatdad
But relatives told news channels the man had tried to molest the girl and had set her on fire when she objected. his defense will be he was just doing what the prophet Mohamed did ... all muslims think its ok to have sex with children....


What?!

"All Muslims think it's ok to have sex with children"...?!?!

I knew racism was starting to run rampant... but I didn't think it was getting this obviously twisted.

lol... yeah... and all Christians are pedophile priests who molest young boys right? *sarcasm*


Your statement was just... wow...

Here's a novel idea... leave your neighborhood for long enough to meet someone who isn't a redneck.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Enigma Publius
holy crap. okay. hmmmm-hmmm, (clears throat) allright. so, this is strictly as a result of the religion of Islam, in other words, things just as evil as say...setting an 11 year old girl on fire have not happened in other religions? look, my heart bleeds also, a little, but is this worse than reports of soldiers from a "christian world" who have entered one's home and raped the children in front of the parents? i myself, AM religious. i do believe in God. but i do not see how you can pigeonhole this to a specific religion. i could be wrong.

Maybe you have a point in saying 'not seeing how to pigeonhole this to a specific religion', but in the end aren't all these different 'religions' the same? [ Zeitgeist ]

I could of course think 'Ah well, christians do/did the same'...But I am not religious?!?! So I only think 'religion is the cause of all misery on this planet and this little sad story is yet another proof of it'.

The 'great uncle' in this sad story could of course be excused for not knowing better, being ignorant, 'conservative' or indoctrinated...But in the end, in my opinion, it was 'his religious believes' (whatever they may be!) that made him set the girl on fire.

So I guess as a non-religious person I can honestly state: "religion is the cause of all misery on this planet".

Please correct me if I am wrong.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:33 PM
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I would agree with you if you changed:

"Religion is thecause of misery"

to

"Religion is a cause of misery"

Religion is certainly not the be-all and end-all of misery. Any beliefs, attitudes, ideas or action can cause misery, and not all are religious in their content.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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That is just outright excessive. There should have been some other penalty.

Setting someone on fire???? Terrible!!!!!!



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:13 PM
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i read the whole article and her neighbors ran to her aid
and her relatives also testified that the uncle was indeed trying to molest her and set her on fire because she objected to him molesting her. The police are also putting him on trial
so i wouldn't say the muslim religion is allowing him to get away with this



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by t0ken

Originally posted by fatdad
But relatives told news channels the man had tried to molest the girl and had set her on fire when she objected. his defense will be he was just doing what the prophet Mohammed did ... all muslims think its ok to have sex with children....


I don't think 'ignorant' is the right word for you.i think racist sounds better.

Know your facts before labeling someone as a "racist".


Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad. She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated in Medina.

Aisha was NINE when Mohammad had sex with her. Nine.





[edit on 19-10-2008 by mmariebored]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Oscitate
reply to post by kcire
 


I would agree with you if you changed:

"Religion is thecause of misery"

to

"Religion is a cause of misery"

Religion is certainly not the be-all and end-all of misery. Any beliefs, attitudes, ideas or action can cause misery, and not all are religious in their content.


You are right of course...

But stories like 'setting a girl on fire', 'chop of someones hand' or 'stone a woman to death' all come from religion. So in many cultures 'religion is the root of all evil'.

You, Oscitate, probably have a choice to believe or not to believe and even in what to believe...A lot of people do not have that luxury. They only know and live by 'some religious dogma'. So...For people like this it is a fact: 'religion is the root of all evil'!



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by WatchNLearn
This is all about a filthy pedophile that couldn't get his way, so he uses the ONLY religion that condones this behavior to hide behind - ISLAM.


Can you show us where it allows this type of behavior in Islam?

If it condones it, please show us Quranic text that allows burning one's own children for dressing like this.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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Only Islam says it is ok to punish women if they dress "inappropriately".

Can I call you an ignorant foul? I think I can, it is not an insult, it is the truth. Any such behavior can be blamed on any such systems or collection of systems. Please WatchNLearn tell us all where it says in Islam to punish women for dressing "inappropriately".



If he was a Christian for example (which I am not by the way) then he could not have used this defense. So in a nutshell, Islam "allows" these freaks a get-out--of-jail free card so to speak.

Why would he get out of jail free card, the accusation is that he wanted to molest the little girl, it is funny how this idiot who made this thread listens to a maniac instead of the victims relatives. It shows your true color, it shows how much hate you have towards a group of people that you would lie to yourself and to others to justify your hate. Reminds me of the Nazi era




B. And Yes, I am saying Islam indirectly supports this because there isn't an outcry against it from the Muslim folk!!!

Muslims don't need to talk the talk, they walk the walk. The punishment for rape is death in Islam, I don't think Muslims need to outcry about this, do they?



If Muslims condemned this type of behavior hundreds of years ago then we wouldn't be here discussing this right now. But instead, the liberal Muslims look at the ground and shuffle their feet - a little embarrassed, but not prepared to speak out.

You are acting as if Islam doesn't condemn this type of action, well if you believe in something hard enough it might come true
keep believing in what you want to believe
I'm pretty sure you are a Christian
don't make it any more obvious



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah

Originally posted by WatchNLearn
This is all about a filthy pedophile that couldn't get his way, so he uses the ONLY religion that condones this behavior to hide behind - ISLAM.


Can you show us where it allows this type of behavior in Islam?

If it condones it, please show us Quranic text that allows burning one's own children for dressing like this.


I'm not interested in the Quran. I'm interested in what it's followers do. That is Islam. What it is existentailly. I do not blame all Muslims for this behaviour. I blame ignorant tribal ways allowed by their elders and spiritual leaders. In Britain, if a girl got killed for wearing lipstick, the perpetrators would be killed and their families ostricisided, like open to retribution, in a big way.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 06:20 PM
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Ahhh....More crazy middle easterners. God...I hope the frikkin UN actually does something this time(read up about the Hindu little girl godess thing) I mean these people are crazy.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 06:22 PM
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"religion is the cause of all misery on this planet".

I love correcting people


So where does communism fall in to the equasion??



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 06:30 PM
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I wasn't going to reply to this hotly contested post, but here I am.

The problem is not what is written in the Koran, but how people interpret it.

Remember, those ultra-sick radical Muslim leaders that glorify murdering people of other religions-think palistinian/Iranian/Srian..................

What happened here, as has been posted too many times before on ATS, is a horrible sick monster(s) that do unspeakable evil and hide behind their religion to escape being punished.

Let me given a hopefully clearer example: In the Western World, we refer to Russia and China as Communist.
HOWEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you read what Karl Marx wrote, you would see that neither of these countries follows it.

Do you see my point???

OK, it is that just because someone calls themselves a Muslim/Christian............... "DOES NOT" mean they necessarily follow what their religion/religious text's say.

My favorite example from Christianity is the animal’s who bombed abortion clinics and killed doctors/nurse's/patients..........
NO WHERE in the bible does it say kill doctors.
It DOES say, turn the other cheek...

That said, "IMO" and in my personal experience, it seems that the far and away the vast majority of horrible sick events like this seem to has a monster(s) hiding behind Islam.



[edit on 10/19/2008 by mrmonsoon]



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