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reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 06:45 PM by stander
It's understandable that lots of people were happy when Barack Obama won the presidential election. That was a truly a special occasion and various email providers should speedily include his name into the built-in spell check dictionaries to admit the US President-Elect into the world that used to run on other entries.

Speaking of which . . . lots of pro Obama voters put too much faith in the power of the US President to fix things for them, but that's not the case; there are many other powerful factors that shape the future.

Special occasion met special occasion:

The Dow has lost 9.7% in the last two days alone, its biggest two-day percentage loss since 1987 . . .


There hasn't been an occasion where the Dow would lose more (percentage) in a couple of days following the Election Day as much as there hasn't been a US President who didn't have an Anglo-Saxon name. That's where special has met another special.

But why it hasn't gone the opposite way; why is it so that the Dow hasn't gained 9.7% in two consecutive days following the election?

That's because the US President shouldn't be mistaken for a saint with divine powers to change things around and install a righteous order upon his land. There is no way to change the the corporate reports and other related news that will affect tomorrow's market performance, which will be . . .?

The market history never repeat itself in an exact manner, so the stats telling us what usually happens after the Dow loses some 10% in two consecutive days may not be binding. With a little confidence, a gain of 1% to a loss of 3% should take place. It's a racetrack out there . . .



[edit on 11/6/2008 by stander]


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 07:25 PM by pause4thought
reply to post by stander



Thanks for your very informative posts.

It's a racetrack out there . . .

Well I'm glad you found a metaphor! I was at a loss for words yesterday (but was too taken up with other business to post, unfortunately). The major indecies were the spitting image of the GM forum icon itself. (Not sure where to dig up a historical chart to show this, but at least you described very well exactly what has been going on.)

Although the slide was halted for the day the overall picture remains extremely erratic, to say the least.


DOW:




FTSE 100:



Source




[edit on 7/11/08 by pause4thought]



reply posted on 13-11-2008 @ 06:16 PM by Scramjet76
reply to post by Komodo



This guy predicts it will fall farther than that. Not sure if this is what your referring to though..


reply posted on 17-11-2008 @ 08:38 PM by stander
The direction of the way things have been going lately was a wrong way street for those folks who play the stock market. But for those who make living the most usual way, the descending numbers was a blessing because the downward movement took the oil and gas prices down as well.

The oil price per barrel peaked on July 11, 2008 when it stood at $145, as opposed to present price around $55. That reflects on the prices of gas: the motorists in the USA pay now almost $2 dollars less for a gallon of gas than they did in the summer. That means filling a 15-gallon gas tank saves you $30. Not bad at all, but since the skyrocketing gas prices caused the food prices to go up as well, some of the saved gas money are absorbed by buying the more expensive food. The price of food goes up with the cost of gas increasing, but doesn't go down when gas becomes cheaper again. That's the reality of things.

The lower gas prices will not stay that way for too long. The OPEC is not overly happy with it, and the economy will not stay suppressed forever. Once there is an improvement, the demand for oil will increase and prices will rise again. Until then, keep on trucking.

Now the dispatch from the battlefield: The last Thursday surprising gain got wiped out by the Friday and today session. There is a good chance that the DJIA will close tomorrow bellow 8000 points sending the clock back to the summer of 2002 when it was the last time DJIA was at this level.

When the traders saw the the Dow sliding bellow 8000 last Thursday, they responded with a huge rally. Are we going to see the same response tomorrow?

I think there is not enough fuel left to keep the plane flying above 8000 feet -- or keeping it in the air at all.

No panic, please. One by one.





reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:59 AM by stander
It has become quite customary for NIKKEI to follow suit when the Dow performance draws loud, unfavorable comments. After today's dismal session on Wall St, the Japanese traders paid respect to their fallen round-eyed comrades once again.

Japan stocks dive 6.9 percent after US sell-off

news.yahoo.com...

When you read the article, you can see where the Japanese make a big mistake.

"People are watching U.S. shares closely, and the Japanese market is vulnerable to more falls," he said.


That's right. They are watching the Dow without knowing that there is much more to its performance than mere share selling and buying. The activity is something beyond our comprehension, but we don't have to comprehend; we should accept certain recommendations in good faith and stay cleverly away from the Second Judgement of Souls predicted by German painter Hieronymus Bosch to take place in 2008 - 2009.

There is only one thing I can say to the Japanese traders: Don't look at the Dow; keep your eyes shut!

I know it helps; it worked before . . .






reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 03:14 PM by warrenb
reply to post by Maya00a



the sky is falling the sky is falling
~ chicken little




reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:35 PM by stander
The world was surprised by the Dow today: Instead of extending the ladder mounted on the fire engine and ready to climb up and away from the address 8000 Hell Street, the traders donned asbestos outfits and began to explore the environment deeper bellow the 8,000 points level.

That encouraged some of the professional losers -- who have kept a low profile for some time and refrained from making further predictions about the stock market due to its unpredictability caused by apparent demonic possession -- to leave the Hole of Disgrace to share another of their visions:

Expect a further 10%-15% drop in the Dow, predicts Ron Ianieri, chief markets strategist at Options University, adding that the index could slide to 6,500.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average is set to sink to 6,400 within the next few weeks, Nicole Elliott, technical analyst at Mizuho Corporate Bank told CNBC.


In both cases, the experts no longer talk "derivatives, hedge funds" nor other causes that failed to drown the Dow in the past. Now the experts talk economy.

It would be commendable to consult a qualified economist on the future development. Since economy is a legitimate science (you can win the Nobel Price in this field), it only make sense to stop by a university or a reputable school of economics.
www.stateuniversity.com...

We stop here, because Prof. Theresa Hancock is renown for her ability to explain economic issues to a lay person in the most comprehensive manner . . .






[edit on 11/20/2008 by stander]
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