My co-workers watched as a girl died, page 8

reply to post by rufusdrak

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I am by no means a "new age peace and light people" and while I agree with you that people are by their very nature selfish, I don't think this excludes the need to help others. People help people because doing the right thing feels good or because their action of doing what is right somehow effects them personally in some way. So sure that is a selfish motivation, but it doesn't mean that every human out there wouldn't do the right thing.

There are a lot of good people out there and if your disgusted with the human race does that mean your disgusted with yourself as well? Or are you the only 'good' one out there? LOL

reply to post by MaMaa

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No your not confused MaMaa.
Anon just wrote some rubbish that goes against every ACLS protocol known to medical establishments around the world. And then calls himself an E.R. doc.. Yeah, sureeeeeeee he is.
CPR, is crucial. More so IMO than AED's. Because without oxygen and circulation in an asystolic patient - an AED isn't going to do much of anything.
An AED is only really useful if the patient is in a lethal type of dysrhythmia such as V-FIB.

Begin CPR first in a suspected pulse-less patient, --- have someone call 911 (or whatever it is in your locale) then get someone to fetch the AED to analyze the rhythm.

reply to post by justme2

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Leave it to me to miss the sarcasm! LOL That will teach me to not read all of the replies. Editing to add that it just befuddles me how people don't react. I have four kids, all boys, and believe me there have been some doozies of medical emergencies thus far. There is no time to react or sit and stare, you just jump up and help get the emergency under control and get the person taken care of. I have done things that I never realized I could do because there was no choice, I did it because I had to help my child. Now people would argue it is different because it is your child and for the most part I would agree. But I bet those type of people are not much different with their own children. They could come in bleeding all over the place and stand around stammering and not knowing what to do. *although to be fair we used to joke that we would jump and react when we saw blood or broken bones. Now with two skateboarding and playing football it is common to hear me say "don't bleed on my floor, get moving to the bathroom pronto" with me following close behind! LOL

[edit on 17-10-2008 by MaMaa]

reply to post by TruthParadox

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I agree with the never say never attitude, but I know for a fact that I would and have in the past done something to help. I have had to call 911 a few times for someone in need. I saw a bad car accident once and yes I did stop, get out of my car, call 911 and go help. I mean how hard is it to just grab a phone and call 911? Your certainly not going to get sued for doing that and it doesn't even take any great skill to push the buttons. I have done the right thing and if put in a situation where I had to do it again then I would still react in the same way.

Originally posted by MaMaa
reply to post by rufusdrak

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I am by no means a "new age peace and light people" and while I agree with you that people are by their very nature selfish, I don't think this excludes the need to help others. People help people because doing the right thing feels good or because their action of doing what is right somehow effects them personally in some way. So sure that is a selfish motivation, but it doesn't mean that every human out there wouldn't do the right thing.

There are a lot of good people out there and if your disgusted with the human race does that mean your disgusted with yourself as well? Or are you the only 'good' one out there? LOL

Yep I'm the only good one.



But seriously though I will admit I'm the type of person that's more inclined at least naturally and at first to turn away from a bad scene or pretend I didn't see it but even I have my limits as a HUMAN BEING. I lived in brooklyn new york and I once saw a guy outside of a supermarket beating up his girlfriend and slamming her head against the brick walls of the building. She was tiny like 90-100lbs. Multiple grown adults passed right by them and did their best to pretend that they weren't looking or turned their head away or started walking really fast. I knew this because I was hiding behind the corner boiling and seething, peeking around the corner trying to muster the courage to do something. As I watched countless people pass right in front of them as the guy was slapping and choking his girlfriend and throwing her into the wall, I finally snapped because it made me more angry seeing these apathetic people walking past than it did to see the girl getting beat up so I confronted the guy and saved her. I'm not that big of a guy or anything but it was quite funny how in typical bully fashion as soon as I confronted him he turned into a callow submissive apologetic little pup and was apologizing and making excuses to me as to why he was doing this after I pushed him and threatened to put my fist through his jaw.

This is horrible, just shows how far society has fallen.

Or has it?

Has society ever been overly compassionate? Or has it always just been the minority that go out of their way to help someone?

The case of Kitty Genovese springs to mind, similar circumstances in fact:

"The stabbing of Kitty Genovese lasted 50 minutes was witnessed by 38 people. Surely someone would pick up the phone and call the police, right? Wrong: here’s the infamous story of what happened when good people stood by and did nothing."

Full story can be read here:

www.neatorama.com...

My opinion? "Syndrome", "Bystander Effect", it's all crap dreamed up by psychologists to put an "acceptable" face to blatant human disregard for another persons life. A nice cover up for that guilty feeling these types of people would have for knowing they value themselves, and only themselves, above others.

I guess if it doesn't effect you directly, why care?

reply to post by Xanthus

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I didn't blame Americans for anything that happened in Australia.

I referred to people in general being complacent and emphasized that Americans especially are indifferent and cited their uncaring attitude toward politics. Until I see a little more effort applied toward changing the way things work in D.C. - No, I don't think it's a little much to say so. It's a prime example of indifferent attitudes people can have. Everyone wants to complain and wish something could be done but much more often than not, they are unwilling to step up and play a role.

reply to post by Star kitten

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Wow stuff like this makes me sick. Its amazing how selfish people really are.

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