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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by whitewave
I find it odd that in Hebrew, ra means evil. But yet ra is the center root of Is ra el.
Originally posted by undo
anyway, all throughout the mainstream texts of the time, enlil is depicted as a real grumpy god, and enki, as a caring, loving god.
i believe you can see echoes of this in the story of cain and abel.
cain was hanging with enki, in the farmlands.
abel was hanging with enlil, in the highlands.
And the chief archon seduced her and he begot in her two sons; the first and the second (are) Eloim and Yave. Eloim has a bear-face and Yave has a cat-face. The one is righteous but the other is unrighteous. (Yave is righteous but Eloim is unrighteous.) Yave [Enlil?] he set over the fire and the wind, and Eloim [Enki?] he set over the water and the earth. And these he called with the names Cain and Abel with a view to deceive.
Originally posted by Eleleth
Egh, this thread moves too fast.
Originally posted by undo
anyway, all throughout the mainstream texts of the time, enlil is depicted as a real grumpy god, and enki, as a caring, loving god.
i believe you can see echoes of this in the story of cain and abel.
cain was hanging with enki, in the farmlands.
abel was hanging with enlil, in the highlands.
This is echoed in the Apocryphon of John as well, yet oddly, it labels Enki as "Elo[h]im":
And the chief archon seduced her and he begot in her two sons; the first and the second (are) Eloim and Yave. Eloim has a bear-face and Yave has a cat-face. The one is righteous but the other is unrighteous. (Yave is righteous but Eloim is unrighteous.) Yave [Enlil?] he set over the fire and the wind, and Eloim [Enki?] he set over the water and the earth. And these he called with the names Cain and Abel with a view to deceive.
[edit on 6-10-2008 by Eleleth]
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Yes, now I see what your reasoning was for the post, displaying the meanings are showing how translations look. This is very interesting to me. Especially any words pertainging to a sound (certain octives or instruments, any words with el in them, and ah in them. To me, is seems that words with jah/yah usually show up in the tropical bible to be associated to johova/yhwh and the root el is associted with god. I for one think el and yaw/yah are more then ths one same god. I think its possible there is a distinction going on between these two root words.
Very interesting
Thanks for adding and clarifying!
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by smallpeeps
I hear ya small peeps...much blood will be lost again, in the name of God.
I wonder though, what if proof came about that they were both Egyptian...mabey that would make everyone realize, in some way, they are truly brothers fighting against brothers.
If Abraham was Egyptian, some argue that we was... and if Sarah did have the Pharoahs baby, this would make Isaac and Ishimel both Egyptian blood...even though they are displayed in the bible as brothers having the same father, I dont think many think that it is possible that they both have Egyptian blood.