reply to post by Karlhungis
I understand what you are saying Karlhungis. No Idea is perfect. And, as we go New Ideas that offer a better life are interesting to us because our
lives are obviously lacking. Otherwise people would not try to invision something better for us all. But, like i clearly state in my post, this is a
New Idea. It is an Idea, not a promise, or a reward, its not an instant makeover, or a Utopia. We have to look at it. Inform yourself. Who is behind
the Movie. Who is behind the Venus Project. Why should I consider this new Idea, or Ideas.
Ask yourself this. Are you completely happy with the system that we are currently living in? If yes, then Disgard the Idea.
Do you accept this new Idea worth persueing? Are there enough dissastified people that find this new Idea worth persueing? Do you feel the world needs
to take this step. Are you prepared to involv yourself in that process?
How do you know the outcome of this New Idea will not result in bringing a greater level of equality and satisfaction?
The One we are in has not achieved it, does that mean anyother Idea will also fail?
Then if everyone was living a luxurious lifestyle, that would mean a huge reduction in disease and famine. Everyone would also have a lot more time on
their hands. So if everyone is happy and healthy, with nothing better to do... that would lead to a lot more breeding. The population would explode.
Resources would be that much more in demand. Space would become even more limited.
Currently the poorest areas in the world have the highest birth rates. The western world(currently the more luxurious, healthy and famine free has the
lowest rates so if we were to extend this, then logically, could we not guess that rates would decrease.)
Like I said in my post, we need to get Informed about this new Idea and address worries, I hope I have addressed that one worry of yours. You raise
some great questions.
On the topic of resourses. Free energy! Solar, wind, wave, tidal, geothermal.
The change from creating long lasting products and goods over a materialistic throw away consumer society. Which one do you think consumes more
resources? These are question we need to ask with this new idea to see weather it is worth following when we compare it to how we are living today.
This society can't exist with even a hint of the current system out there or you know that these people and their followers would be labeled a
cult and then taken out.
Of course it can exist with some of our society in it. What these people are advocating, and this is a
simplification, is dropping money, politics and religion. In favour of a resource based society allocating technology and resources to provide for the
needs of all people. On a similar note, we do not have to fully change our life, we can take just some of the really great ideas from this New one to
improve our current situation, if that is all we feel is necessary.
Go back two hundred years and describe our society today as an Ideal for that time period, and i bet you would be told the same.
If anything the ideas that they put forth are as depressing as the reality that we live in, simply because they are so impossible to
I am sorry that you feel depressed. Does the fact that you had this reaction mean that this new Idea is an Impossibility. How many other Ideas have
been deemed impossible. I was rather optomistic and happy to see that people are still looking for better ways to do things and not simply towing the
line. But you know, people have are always thinking of better ways to make and do things, mainly money. This New Idea is different too that old idea.
I thank you for your reply.
Thanks for the Link to the Book, I will try to read it.
[edit on 5-10-2008 by atlasastro]