Originally posted by CuriousFinger
Demons are behind everything. Trust no one...

i have to admit that i was previously skeptical about this zeitgeist movie -- i only watched a little bit of the original -- but am i glad i did!! it explains the money issue so clearly! i had trouble convincing people over the past few weeks that the entire monetary system is corrupt and needs to fall down (i.e. no bailouts). the responses i received were all over the board, but the toughest comments went like this: "yeah, so? what else is there out there for us besides capitalism?"

this movie encapsulates a successful approach to answering that question. thanks for sharing this!! i will pass it along!

This is quite possibly the most eye opening film ever made.I am in awe of how cerebral yet approachable the content is.This film will scare the crap out of any establishment that is aware of it's existence.It offers true hope for the future of mankind.I am still worried that it may be too late,as the powers that be do seem to be entrenched and overwhelming.I do have hope that something like this will be our future.If not,we are doomed.

I loved the first film,I think that this one way outperforms.I know that this will be a hard pill to swallow,especially for the religious types.Most will reject this film on the basis of attacking their belief system.I am not sure that many will be able to shake this off even in one hundred years.Unless something cataclysmic happens.This film has given me hope,and new worries as well,some of witch I have stated above.I feel enlightened like never before.I hope this movement swells like a massive tsunami,washing over human perception and affecting real change.This will be fought against.I wish perseverance to those who will carry this message of a new hope.Oh yeah,One more thing,

I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!

hmmm, the web-bot guys predict a 2.2million or a 22million person "calamity(??)" coming shortly also. Connected maybe?

hard to say

I like Terrence McKenna's and his TimewaveZero take on it all. We're reaching a level of exponential "novelty". We seem to be approaching a nexus point. Everything changes. The change is so great it's mind-blowing. Sounds cool to me

Jacque Fresco has the vision of the future that can/will work, this is the only way humanity will truely know peace. This video is truth.

P.S I just e-mailed this video link to my Representative.. lets see if he responds to this.



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Originally posted by Terry_Dactyl
hmmm, the web-bot guys predict a 2.2million or a 22million person "calamity(??)" coming shortly also. Connected maybe?

hard to say

I like Terrence McKenna's and his TimewaveZero take on it all. We're reaching a level of exponential "novelty". We seem to be approaching a nexus point. Everything changes. The change is so great it's mind-blowing. Sounds cool to me

I (heart) Terrence McKenna! Too bad all the great people get dead lol

Change is already here, it's just moving so fast we can't see it.. lol

Originally posted by daeoeste
This film will scare the crap out of any establishment that is aware of it's existence.

No it won't.

They know most will not watch it.

And the ones that do, only half will believe it.

And of that half only one or two will act on it.

And those two will die in a plane crash

That was one of the best spent two hours of my life.

Let's pass this on to everyone.

describing a paper trail

it was there b4 comps

film sets up with a 9 bil example taken from a text book couting a 9k ammount.

There was never any money to start with. where would money come from and how would things appreciate if money was actually tangable?

so far all i see is the books balance and there was always 100% nothing and everytthing.



omg please, linking tottaly unrelated facts 1 after the other

ok i get the point, money doesnt matter, money doesnt exist.

it all goes back to the point, there was never any money


debt free only when we dont have money or it doesnt exist

cant take any more, please if i missed a big point tell me


and those are my notes i took before i could take no more. We are ruled by a system and the system involves money.

if you dont already realise this then you are done.

No it won't.

They know most will not watch it.

And the ones that do, only half will believe it.

And of that half only one or two will act on it.

And those two will die in a plane crash


Then I will not be flying anytime soon.I thought about this as well.For some reason,I do not think that this future depends on who sees this video.Many of these concepts transcend this video,and it really just ties these thoughts together.

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Oooohhh,I screwed that quote up and could not fix it.the above reply was directed at lucid lunacy.

Originally posted by ioweagle
describing a paper trail

it was there b4 comps

film sets up with a 9 bil example taken from a text book couting a 9k ammount.

So? The maths are the same, just the amount has been raised to better illustrate the example in terms of countries rather than individuals.

There was never any money to start with. where would money come from and how would things appreciate if money was actually tangable?

That is the whole point of the film. If money has no actual backing, like the old Greenback did, then how could it be used as a currency when it has nothing to give it value?

omg please, linking tottaly unrelated facts 1 after the other

ok i get the point, money doesnt matter, money doesnt exist.

it all goes back to the point, there was never any money

It is not saying money does not exist, it is saying that without something to back it up (ie. a gold standard) that therefore the money is essentially useless and worth nothing.

debt free only when we dont have money or it doesnt exist

cant take any more, please if i missed a big point tell me

Oh boy oh boy did you miss the point COMPLETELY. How about watching the entire documentary before you start to make things up hey?

and those are my notes i took before i could take no more. We are ruled by a system and the system involves money.

Aaaaand your point is? If you had have actually watched the rest of the film it quite adequately explains all these things, so therefore I will not bother wasting my time.

I ABHORE it when people spout off so sanctimoniously about a subject and yet they refuse to complete the actual research when in fact it's completion will generally answer the questions. That is the whole point. Introduction. Body. Conclusion. It sounds as if you didn't even make it to the end of the Introduction.

My god man, if you wish not to look so ignorant from now on how about you sit down and watch the entire documentary THEN come on here and discuss it. Until then I throw my hands up in disbelief at the complete and utter ignorance.




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I have forwarded a link to this movie to all of my friends with a recommendation for them to do the same. I urge everyone on here to do the same.

How timely with the economic mess going on these past few weeks. Too bad this wasn't released 2 weeks ago, before the bailout.

Maybe thats why they were in such a hurry to get it passed?

Just food for thought

Before we go on, I feel this needs to be said. If you are going to come into this thread and participate PLEASE OH PLEASE....

WATCH THE ENTIRE BLOODY DOCUMENTARY BEFORE POSTING

There have been some posting here who have watched the first few minutes then come in here spouting off that this or that doesn't make sense or is out of context. For the love of god, cast your minds back to your schooling years and remember the basics of an argument....

Introduction.

Body.

Conclusion.

Some of you are watching the Introduction and drawing all of your conclusions based upon that. Please OH PLEASE remember the motto of this site...

DENY IGNORANCE.

/rant.