Originally posted by Valhall
I do have a question to Johnny...to me this sounds like an internal sound from the recorder. I'm unsure what type of recorder this is and what
moving parts are in it, but it sounds either like a small bearing that has been worn, or a CD drive that has begun to wobble. Can you give some
feedback on that? Have you set this same recorder up since the excursion and just let it record for a long period of time to see if it makes that
noise again?
A good question.
Prior to this particular unit being brought up to the Gilliland Ranch it was given a head to toe (or would that be a tape transport to recording head)
inspection and cleaning. I have a friend that is a former Sony repair Guru (he's also one of my PC Guru's too) and I asked him to give it a once
over. I had the capstans, tape transport guides, the heads, and internals all inspected with the instructions to bring everything back to factory
specs. He informed me that the unit was in tip-top shape with no loose parts and all he did was do a professional head cleaning (although in his
opinion the unit was in like-new condition, I still insisted on it). I ran approximately 7 hours of tape through it prior to going up to
Gillilands.
This was the cameras maiden voyage into it's UFO recording quest. It's functioning and recording was flawless. It recorded 9 videotapes (18 hours)
prior to these strange events being captured. There was a total of four tapes that captured these strange audio bits. No setting changes (CAVEAT:
zoom/focus). I clean the heads every 5 recordings (I'm a former Broadcast TV guy, I take care of my equipment religiously.
In regards to your query as to just let it record for a long time after the said above events, would 50+ additional hours seem like an acceptable
amount of extra recording? And every tape recording was perfect and the events captured in those couple of days was never repeated or caught again in
the following week+ of recording. One would think that if it was an internal problem, that it would've repeated itself sometime in that next 50+
hours of taping/activity.
Since my return from my jaunt to Washington, I've used the camcorder for about 12 hours doing static recordings, (aimed towards the East for possible
daylight objects at Sunrise). All recordings have been flawless also.
I'm going to have to rule out the possibility of mechanical failure with a 99.99% level of confidence. I'm basing this on my personal years of field
location and experience in the Television medium, the word of my Tech Guru, and the hours of tape that it has recorded since the capturing of said
events in question.
Hope that answers your query.
Originally posted by thethirdofthestorms
Correct me if i'm wrong.
Both times you hear an airplane in the "unexplained sounds" video,the sound itself seems to go higher,more alerting...
Don't you think?
There are more than just several audio captures and there are several that do not have any planes or jets in them. I equate the fact that there are
planes heard in a few of the captures as a mere coincidence. In just the same way or train of thought that there are people in the
background/foreground which I also put in the "chance coincidence" department.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
According to this site I found there are two different species of cicada native to Eastern Washington. The Eastern Washington Cicada and the Buzzing
Cicada. However, the sound recorded on the video doesn't sound like cicada, it sound like a feedback loop, and to my knowledge there's no way for a
natural sound to produce a feedback loop.
www.bentler.us...
Thank You so much for someone finally providing a direct link for Washington state regarding to Cicadas. It's much appreciated
Originally posted by sos37
First of all, thanks for all the hard work and the awesome videos. The clarity and sound quality are amazing!
I do have a few of questions for you guys about the videos related to the anomalous sounds.
1. I've heard a very similar sound to the "feedback loop" before, but it wasn't ET in origin. It was years ago when I had the casing off a 4-head
VCR that I was trying to fix and I was running a tape through the machine. When I ejected the tape, the tape came out and the heads or something
inside continued to spin and as it spun down, the sound was very similar to what I heard on that feedback loop.
Obvious the IR camera you're using isn't a VCR, but I'm not familiar with the camera setup. Is it recording to magnetic tape just a VCR tape does
or is it purely digital?
2. I'm sure this question has been covered somewhere, but has the IR camera that recorded the sounds been set into a controlled test environment like
a sound proof room or a basement and set to run for a long period of time to make sure that the same feedback loop didn't re-occur? Also, has the IR
camera been tried in another outdoor location not on Gilliland Ranch and been determined not to produce the feedback loop (assuming something
environmental isn't causing the camera to make the noise).
3. This was probably also covered somewhere, but when the feedback sound was happening, was it audible to the people around? Could you actually hear
it going on or did only the camera pick up this odd sound?
I'm not a skeptic, I'm just trying to rule out all of the possibilities. I would love for this to be the recorded sound of a "beam ship" or
experimental plane, but in my mind, I need to exhaust all of the possibilities before I can buy off.
Answer to #1:
Yes, it is magnetic tape on a SONY 1998 Analog X-R Series Hi-8 Camcorder. And being a former Camcorder/VCR Rep/Salesperson for a large Electronics
firm I can say in fact that both VCR's and Camcorders do exactly as you described, which is the heads spinning down. They also do the same on
start-up which is to bring the spinning heads to a proper rotation speed before recording. And no, I don't believe that the sounds or the objects
captured on video are ET in origin. Unless I physically have an Alien make contact with me and hand me something (and good luck with that concept ever
happening), I choose to try and find an "earthly" explanation for what was captured. This does not mean that I have an "earthly" explanation yet,
and hence why we continue to try and disseminate what we are presenting.
Answer to #2
After the initial captures were made, the camcorder recorded from various locations another 50+ some odd hours without anything strange being
captured. When I returned back to the studio, I've recorded on the same unit another 12 odd hours on it and again without any strange sounds or
noises.
Answer to #3
In all the captures, although there are people nearby and speaking to one another, no one when questioned said that they heard anything. The only
person I did not ask this to was the star of the Paranormal State show regarding the capture of weird sound while he was interviewing a witness. They
were the nearest to the camcorder in all of these events (probably 6 to 8 feet away), this is the capture that ends abruptly when the tape ran out and
shutdown automatically.
Originally posted by waveguide3
I watched Johnny's tin can and ball throwing experiment with interest. The distance to the tall trees seems to be maybe 3-400 yards (?).
With hindsight, a high speed camera would have helped resolve some of the issues raised in trying to analyse fast moving fuzzy objects snapped with a
conventional camera. Johhny mentions interframe streaking due to the video mechanism, but also shutter speed.
There are 1760 yards in a mile. Our location for the camcorder was just 15 yards shy of being a quarter mile to the front of the two trees.
Yes, a High-speed camera would've been great, we were forced to shoot at 1/5000 a second. Shooting in infrared on a camcorder will not have the same
quality as shooting without. But if one can capture something that can not be seen in the normal visual spectrum, one has to make a trade-off. I chose
to try and capture something and then deal with the circumstances later on.
Originally posted by Europa733
I asked Johnny about posting high definition stills (frames), specially when he thinks that they are going "behind" the trees.
If you U2U me I'll send you a link to a link for downloading a clean segment of the larger object (sorry, I have way too much on plate to do captures
of all of them).
Originally posted by Komodo
My observation on the sounds videos:
You didn't have a control video. From reviewing the sounds, it doesn't show any panning around the camp/area to ensure you didn't have machinery
running at the time you recorded the sounds.
You may have missed the video and also some of the previous posts that mentioned that I went to some lengths to not only duplicate the sounds but take
a number of "Control Sounds" for comparison. I was there for Two weeks, I think I have a pretty good idea of what ambient sounds were present on the
Ranch. I had a bevy of cameras that I had set up at various locations. The older analog camcorder was the only one that captured anything visually and
audibly, hence the reason why your seeing/hearing only captures from that 'one' camera. Don't mistake the fact that because you simply see one
perspective from solely one camera that I was not out and about with not only my other digital cameras, but also tri-field meters, RF meters, geiger
counters and assorted other field goodies. I've been doing this for 25+ years... I've got a pretty good clue as to what to bring with me and what to
look for when out in the field.
Please forgive me if I've missed someones query, I'm attempting to get to all of them. If some have not had their question answered it may be
because it's already been covered and you probably will want to do a little research on your own through all the posts to find. Also don't forget
that we have the original series of Mt. Adams videos located here:
AboveTopSecret.com And Robbie Williams Investigate UFOs at Gilliland Ranch (audio &
video)
Johnny
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