Originally posted by Alter-Ego
So, my appologies to everyone involved and more specifically to Zorgon.
I made a mistake but I am man enough to admit it. Truth is INDEED stranger than fiction ..it would seem.
Thanks for saying that
Apology accepted... no worries
The following is a for EVERYONE
Now let me address this a little more...
There are three ways to post images here in the forum...
Posts the image and though its cropped when you click on it you see the whole thing.... like THIS
But below the image it posts the entire url as well.
Using the tags works for image hosting sites and my site as well.... It does NOT display the url and before it used to auto shrink the
image to fit the forum page... for some reason it did not do this and just cropped the rest with no link... Perhaps I missed a step? Worked
The result now is THIS
The forum is limited to a certain size image... because bigger images will run havoc with the thread format and make it hard to read...
It also makes a thread hard to load especially for dial up... so there is no mystery here at all... and certainly no subterfuge
The third method is to use THIS tag...
What that does is allow a HUGE image to be added to a post and looks like THIS
The problem is (and this as is proven by your post) is that many people simply don't take a minute to click on a link to see the source. So if its
not right there in the post it's ignored...
And that causes frustrations on the posters end... and needless battles in the thread...
Hope that clears it up....
You also mentioned seeing this in the link....
And I saw several respond with "Good sluething"
Since John is the one who first brought the Lunar Orbiter images to the attention of ATS in a big way in THIS thread...
John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS
Post created by Springer and it ran 265 pages (and is still going albeit not so strong since John left)
So why would it be a surprise to ANYONE that anything to do with Lunar Orbiter images is hosted under his section on my site?
One more point about images...
When you post an image or a link to a document on ATS... with the HUGE membership here it is logical to expect that the website hosting the image or
the document will received HUNDREDS and sometimes THOUSANDS of hits within hours
This has several results...
IF its an image on a small site... the resultant draw on Bandwidth will most likely overload the site. And some people (though I don't know why
still pay for limited bandwidth on their ISP...
IF a document like the Warp Drive one on LANL (Los Alamos National Labs) gets hot linked and posted... now you have 1000 hits on a 'sensitive yet
public' document that maybe had 1 to 2 hits a month before... this send out flags and the file gets moved
IF a document is found on a MILITARY website usually with a .mil url... the document is in the public domain, but as I found out not always accessable
from OUTSIDE the USA... and many .mil sites bring up a 'certificate' pop up that require you to accept it before access is allowed... and THAT
certificate pops up to anyone opening the thread where the link is on... THAT caused a few eyebrows to be raised and I bet added fuel to the fire that
ATS is 'connected'
Pegasus was set up originally to solve these issue... by me hosting a copy of the image or file on my site and linking it to that... where I have
unlimited bandwidth paid for out of MY pocket... thus not straining the smaller sites and causing them to crash... Since there are no sales, no ad
revenues, no donations and no member fees on my site... it means I can easily get permission to reprint just about anything... Was only told no ONCE
in all these years...
This means that a thousand viewers can see the material and no buttons are pushed.
Matyas and Myself created Pegasus to answer this need... and several other members are contributors to the research... ALL of which is posted here at
Now there have been times we have been accused of 'profiteering'... a few even told me how rude it was to use ATS bandwidth to promote my site...
when in fact all the material I post on ATS... the reverse is true... ATS is the business... not us... and THEY use MY bandwidth free and clear... as
well as my content...
Also with the NUMEROUS mentions of ATS on my site to stay in compliance with the creative commons license regarding member content... seems to me a
lot of free advertisement
I bring all this up now to 'clear the air' as it were... There have been certain issues raised via U2U that specifically pertain to this, but since
they are private communications... I will say that there have been 'complaints' about my using my site to link to information.
I will leave it at that, and my avatar is back... so I will see how the 'weather' is the next few months