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But your waffling again. I've explained my distress at your country playing havok over the last 8 years, in my life. I've observed the behaviour of your country over the 50 year history. And I dont like it! What is your point about the Irish, what is your problem? You seem to want to compare Americas major war issues with the Irish wars. Both are entirely different. Unless you can, explain to me some sense? because there is no logic in comparing both. Since Ireland has never invaded other nations. America does it as a hobby ! and alot of other selfsh reasons. Would you like me to explain them?
Originally posted by dooper
I never, ever said anything about Ireland fighting other nations. I specifically said the Irish have fought in almost every war, on every side, and that is the God's truth. Most of them were freedom fighters? So?
Stop that, I never said I hated Americans. now now behave and stick to the topic
You just hate Americans. Good for you. Like we give a tinker's damn.
your irresponsiblity and insulting is your fault. Sort it. And calling me son is disrespectful. I would appreciate if you didn't call me son. Let's be adults here. Can you understand that?
Don't call you son? Your diction and word usage indicates immaturity, or at the very least, a limited working knowledge of the English language. Not my fault.
Good then, stop giving justifcation over larger numbers ffs.
I never said it's OK for 500,000 to die.
Basically wtf are you rambling about now. You havent given any example to what your whinging about. I can't help you with this. I understand reality, and I think the basics, I'm telling you, War is not solving conflict. Thats basics for you. It's made things worse! thats realy simple for anyone to grasp, Is this not basic?
I've met folks like you who can't get past the basics. Just because you don't like the choices available, you can't make one.
Because the United states is where is it today, from taking and taking from other countries. using other's nations recourses and wealth. Generating wars, for more money. I'm honestly convinced that your in fantasy land. Wake up.
You have me on this one. Ireland truly is a lot older than America. So what exactly has that gotten you? Nothing! You would think that of all Europe, with the considerable head start you all had, centuries even, that you'd be way ahead of the United States in all things. And you're not. Ever wonder why?
So killing each other work OK... limited intellegence is written your forehead, go wash it off. 50,000 years later, war work's again OK.... 750,000 dead civilians works? OK. The millions of families displaced from their loved ones, are happy and peaceful because of this war, OK war works.
And I differ. Wars do work. You kill every SOB on the other side, war over.
LMAO. I love when people like you keep giving yourself rope! Do you know that the majority of scientist and inventors are not American born, from previous studies is something like nearly 75% are not American, ironic eh. The rest of your post means nothing really. just more ways of killing people to get more power. Yeah your country is the biggest mistake to mankind, thank god the rest of the world is learning from it. To bad you can't.
My country is a mistake? Since it is more wealthy, more independent, higher levels of technology, greater scientific advancements, more powerful, bigger weapons, greater weapons systems, superior navy, the first to the moon, with more opportunity, what does that make your country?
Yes it has, (some of your fellow Americans have agreed with me on this stance) your nation is in puberty right now. Doesn't listen to other nations, has rages all the time, is in conflict pretty much all the time and acts before it thinks and does what it wants when it wants regardless of the impact on the rest of the world, sound familar?
America has a lot of growing up to do? Well, if you are using your country as an example of a culture all grown up, then I think we're much better off with our immaturity.
YES your nation did take control over Iraq, do you know why, do you ? :lol wise man.......
Hey, Slick. We didn't take Iraq. We didn't take Korea. We didn't take Germany. Or Japan. Or France. Or Belgium. Or Italy. Or Algeria. Or Luxembourg, on and on.
Oh yeah, you haven't impressed me a bit, I'm used to listening to this nonsense from people like you all the time. Its too bad you people talk alot of horsecrap. "I buried a lot folks like you" would you shut up!
I'll give you a real eye-opener. When a man sets out to kill you and has armed himself to do just that, you concept of, "respect for one'self is a greater power than anything else" is a load of horsecrap. That's exactly what I was talking about. I buried a lot of folks like you.
Instead of me being the "smart man" prove it..... You haven't answered any of my question, are you the big smart man now, that can't back his statements. Go aheaa, I'm listening!
Dealing with aggression by using aggression is wrong? Man, you are so far out of touch with reality, you must be an academia. Or pseudo-intelligentsia. The same ones who in times of trouble drop faster than burschitt in a downdraft.
There's idealism, and then there's the situation all complete with reality. And never the twain shall meet. You see the idealists are only guaranteed their safety and security by the sword. The security of the shield is only guaranteed by skill with the sword. Eventually, the shield will defend the wrong side of a killing thrust or splinter.
I won't bother you anymore. You have enough troubles.
Originally posted by dooper
Survival is the price of victory. It's either you and yours, or them and theirs. You don't like war? No problem. You are among the majority. The more ruthless survive, all other things being equal. You have to want to win. More than life you have to want to win. Right? Wrong? That's the secret. It doesn't matter. You win first and you discuss the moralities among the survivors.
The dead? Well, who really gives a damn what they thought?
Originally posted by dooper
Wait a minute. I casually mention that Irish have fought in every war on every side. You twist that as though I suggested Ireland was an offensive country. I repeat my casual statement and then give examples. Your best response is that I'm waffling? WTF are you talking about?
I never compared Ireland to America in the conduct of war.
go back and read properly SMART ARSE. I said i observed the last 8 years and observed the history. You learn alot from history, It's that amazing. I will not shut up! Behave yourself "wise man"
Originally posted by dooper
You mentioned that you were in your twenties. Then that you've been observing the behavior of my country for the past fifty years. That is amazing. And if you mean that you have studied my country;s history over the past fifty years, then you don't know any more about my country than I (according to you) know about your country. So, STFU.
To cut your crap RIGHT now. that 500,000 were killed in genocide, a war based on lies, a war that was created by your nation pre gulf war. It's engineered war. So again despite number difference, you simple cannot compare the Second world war, to this satanic pathetic war right now!
The 500,000. One more time, and just for you, I'll type real slow. The point was that the hesitation by Europeans to address the threat of Hitler in 1938-39, when casualties could have been minimal, (just use the number 500,000, or substitute your own) cost 52,000,000 lives lost over the following five years. It was the hesitation alone that cost all these lives. You take care of a problem while it's small, and you save a lot of lives.
Second most intellegent thing you said in this entire thread! war = conflict. So i guess war is pointless then isn't it.
You say "war is not solving conflict." Friend, war is conflict. At its most pristine level.
No that is your perception sorry to burst your little bubble. Oh and some of it has truth to it, most noticeably your nation! If it were true, what are you going to do about it. Sit here rant and rage, and go out and fight more wars, because we are pigs, so lets all be pigs. So basically your saying mankind is bad, so your answer is let's just keep it that way! I see.
Look around. Mankind, I'm sorry to say, is a rancid wound seeping pus. Mankind is weak, lustful, greedy, depraved, self-centered, and enthusiastically susceptible to every vice and wickedness he can conceive. Man will lie, cheat, steal, and murder for a single dollar or Euro. He will melt down his heritage and his gods, and coin the same just a few brief moments of pleasure with whores. He will steal from his own children for a brief drug-induced high. This is man's nature. This is man's behavior. This is mankind.
Thankfully, the Great Architect in His infinite wisdom has provided a cantilever to our unique depravity and selfishness. That is war.
War produces courage. Sacrifice. Virtue. Kinsmanship. War, not rancid peace, purges mankind of the weaker elements within a society. War is selfless love for others, uniting him and his brothers to eradicate the evil that is thrust upon them. Because of survival of the fittest, war cleanses the weaker members of a society within, those who more easily fall to these lusts. Only in war does a man fully learn of rooms within the mind never to be entered. The room of fear. Anger. Passion. Possession. Just to name a few.
No it doesn't war kills people. Cut the crap please. Honest to god, your an embarresment and a disgrace to humanity.
War enables. Courage. Sacrifice. Bravery. Legends. War enables other generations to measure themselves by the heroes of past wars. To emulate their selflessness. The value of sacrifice for others.
LONDON (Reuters) - Israel gave serious thought earlier this year to a military strike on Iran's nuclear sites but was told by U.S. President George W Bush he would not support it, a British newspaper reported on Friday.
The Guardian, quoting what it called senior diplomatic sources who work for a European head of government for its information, said Bush also told Israel he did not expect to revise that view for the rest of his presidency.
Third intellegent thing you've said, on this thread. I appreciate that.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Cuhail
Keeper of the Blade - I apologize.
They pretty much do as they will, and we usually pull the plug right after they've kicked someone's ass in a thoroughly proper manner.
Its about Oil. Second, it's about America getting it, before Russia and China do the business (which are currently are doing, and pretty much the right way without war)
Originally posted by Regenmacher