Originally posted by dooper
Originally this post started about Israel getting red light to bomb Iran. I don't know, but it sounds like the topic may have something to do with
fighting and war.
Yes you did, you told me that I shouldn't have an opinion on this topic of war because I'm Irish. and we Irish are not fit to talk about war,
because of our history. But our in our history, we did not invade, we did not kill other people in other countries. You keep enphisising your BS
claims on a few Irish people, and painting a whole nation black. Yes you did it, all by yourself. You blacken me for voicing my opinion on this war
too. You have absaloutley no respect, understanding and you are cluleess on reailty.
So Yes you did. go back and read. Your were quite full of arrogance too. You don't make any sense, because your not even aware of your own behaviour
and your short term memory is non existent.
Now, what I said about war and fighting is not spoken out of complete ignorance. In conflict, which was the original topic, you can break it down to
the basics. You have predators, and then you have prey. You can wait to get hit, or you can hit first. You can use surprise, or be surprised. You
can use mass of force, or you can be crippled or destroyed. This isn't that hard. Israel has consistently been attacked, Iran's President has
rattled his sabres, threatened Israel with extinction, and is in the process of accumulating sufficient nuclear material to do just that.
Nonsense, nonsense and Nonsense. We are not animals, and you seem to want to be basic and lets just be animals. Not logic or right. We are human
beings. Human learn from their mistakes. Humans are prey to sharks maybe. That's about it.
Get that fact into your head.
That is not correct that the Iranian president wanted Israel wiped off the map. he corrected those lies himself live on T.V. It's your government
twisting it things again. (remind you of Iraq? no?)
He has publically stated MANY times, he does not want war with either America or Israel. That lie has already been debunked on ATS dooper. Now you can
sing and dance, but it's not my fault your ignornant of it. He has told the world, he wants nothing but peace, despite Bush and Israels efforts to
ignite a war for profitereal reasons. But oh well.
Second fact, Many many countries in the world has nuclear capabilities, Including America and Israel, stop assuming that Iran wants to attack, cus it
doesn't. Its a peaceful soveriegn prospering nation that wants and has the right to protects itself. Especially since Bush is messing everything up
and constantly doing the whole nazis and fear rants into the American people!! You either are now falling for it or your getting paid to talk like
this
When a threat, a real threat has been made, prudence alone dictates that you assume this is not an idle threat.
Your own government makes the
threats, ignited the last war and provokes and threatens a new one. are you aware yet, obviously not lol... ignorant, ignorant and ignorant you
are.
Now I don't care if one likes war, or hates war, or detests violence of any kind, it just may be thrust upon you. You will fight and prevail, or . .
. not.
Still not acceptable behaviour or the responsible adult way of dealing with conflict. Simple as. I don't think anybody give's a
hoot whether you care, cus you don't have self respect to begin with anyway.
I truly don't know what in hell you guys are talking about. War is wrong! War is supposedly a game initiated by the political/criminal elite? Who
give a crap? Certainly not those who initiate catastrophic threats, and then given green light after green light when no one stops them, decide to
carry out their threats. Once the shooting starts, morality doesn't enter the equation.
What? I'm sorry but what are you talking about
again
I asked you twice before previously who is
"them"? or those
"threats" Now now, you must explain exactly what your trying
to get everyone else to understand. I mean we don't know who the "threat" is do we ? (or do we)
EDIT: Yes war is wrong, when its to do with killing people for money, power and greed. Pretty much what's causing wars right now. Today, humans are
much more adapted and communcative. We can solve issues and conflict much more efficiently, with diplomacy. War causes more hate and resentment.
.
My favorites in my opponents in war? Enemy moralists and pacifists. You gotta love a man who can't and won't fight once the fight has begun.
Love what? or fight what, again explain? Do you behave like this all the time?
At the end of the day, the winners make the rules. Those who forge their swords into plows, plow for those with swords. It has been this way since
time began, and will never, ever change.
there is no winner, not in war. You can keep calling yourself a winner of a battle, but yet fight
another war and another and so on, what does it take to prove your the best and how much does it take for it to lose it all?
Go sit with Neville Chamberlain. His pacifism and desire to use reason and place himself on a morally higher plane directly caused at least
twenty-five million deaths. And that's what folks like you never get around to. The other side of the equation. Jeez.
Not relevant to topic. Why don't you sit next to Neville Chamberlain???
[edit on 27-9-2008 by mind is the universe]
I
don't put my identity into a country. I'm an individual. I'm using my own personal power for the greater good. I have value and moral, I'm not
stupid to fall for such, act of patriotrism, or trickery into following someone and fighting for them, for their desires. Please don't say things
like that to me. In the way you've come acrossed here, I feel you've really mis-judged me as a person. I do not doubt my own power. So why would I
give my power to another person. So you are very wrong in your questioning of me. 
Wake up, oh wake up. 
