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"On Aug. 4, 1969, Betty Hill discussed the star map with me. Betty explained that she drew the map in 1964 under posthypnotic suggestion. It was to be drawn only if she could remember it accurately, and she was not to pay attention to what she was drawing - which puts it in the realm of automatic drawing. This is a way of getting at repressed or forgotten material and can result in unusual accuracy. She made two erasures showing her conscious mind took control part of the time."
Originally posted by Maker
You'd have to be pretty stupid to think we're the only rock with life on and there's too much compelling evidence that suggests we're not alone, even if you debunk 99.9% of it as explainable, attention seeking or hoax. We have been visited, we're no doubt being observed.
Originally posted by ArMaP
A thing that I always thought if was a coincidence or not was their names, they had the same names as the Rubbles from the Flintstones, who were created a year before.
Originally posted by SamuelCalifornia
Okay. First and foremost, you mean the late Carl Sagan of Harvard, and ironically SETI
Oersted Medal (1990)
NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal (twice)
Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction (1978)
National Academy of Sciences Public Welfare Medal (1994)?
It may be well known to UFO buffs that he was ' employed' to debunk, but where is the evidence? Hynek had a change of heart and is entitled to do so, this shouldn't undermine Sagan's thoughts concerning the star map. Seriously, if the government wanted to debunk the Hills, they could easily get some lowly CIA scout to plant coke in Betty's car and bust her. Bingo. Drug head, hence unreliable. Wouldn't that be easier than having a payroll of respected scientists?
That is one thing I hate to see.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
5. The evidence is overwhelming, and many prosecutors get convictions on much less evidence.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Badge01
While you do bring up some interesting details about the case, there are some details that stick out.
1. Betty and Barney gave nearly identical descriptions of what happened, and those details were different from Betty's dreams.
2. I think the confirmed radar report of an unknown object in the same area by Pease AFB gives this case the boost it needs.
3. Many people did the put the compass near the car. It was not only Betty.
4. Barney drove two hours to work and two hours home. Yes, he could have watched the series "The Outer Limits", but they did not watch TV. Also, I have seen the episode and the aliens described by the Hills look much different.
5. The evidence is overwhelming, and many prosecutors get convictions on much less evidence.
6. The Hill's were hard working people who did not want any publicity for what happened to them.
I would love to hear all the tapes the Hills made. The ones I have heard with the terrified Barney I will never forget.
Missing time
On November 25, 1961, the Hills were again interviewed at length by NICAP members, this time C.D. Jackson and Robert E. Hohman.
Having read Webb's initial report, Jackson and Hohman had many questions for the Hills. One of their main questions was about the length of the trip. Neither Webb nor the Hills had noted that, though the drive should have taken about four hours, they did not arrive at home until seven hours after their departure. When Hohman and Jackson noted this discrepancy to the Hills, the couple was stunned, having no explanation (a frequently reported circumstance in alleged alien abduction cases that some have called "missing time"). However, Betty was able to recall an image of the moon shining on the ground.
As Clark writes, despite "all their efforts the Hills could recall almost nothing of the 35 miles between Indian Head and Ashland.