What is Obama's religion? ("My Muslim faith"), page 1
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 11:32 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Loke.


Hear, hear.

For everyone else: With respect, may I ask you to stop for just a moment, whichever "side" of this absurd discussion you occupy?

Could I ask you all to pause VERY briefly and think of exactly how proud you would be of this same conversation if you were to take either side of the "Eeek, don't listen, he's really a Muslim" hyperventilation, and simply replace it with a parallel "Eeek, don't listen, he's really a Jew!" hyperventilation, in regard to a similar situation with some other candidate for public office?

Would you teach your kids to talk like that?

Would you teach your kids to make decisions like that?

I don't blame him for getting tongue-tied. The absurdity of a major presidential candidate, in a supposedly secular society, having to repeatedly deny belonging to a "bad" religion, must have made his head swim for a moment. It's making mine swim. The naked religious bigotry of this part of the "debate" has to be one of the low points of this campaign.


PS: I'm a Muslim, by the way. Do I get to vote, or am I off the list as unqualified because of my religion?


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 11:52 AM by LLoyd45
Originally posted by The Cyfre
LOL, ok so Obama actually misspoke and said Muslim when his faith is Christian.

Are you guys being serious? Surely you jest!

So when McCain misspeaks about something it's okay. Not because he's old, that'd be Ageism. It's okay because he's human! But when Obama says Muslim instead of Christian in a hard-hitting network interview, gets corrected AND acknowledges his correction by saying Christian, that's not okay. Why? Isn't he human to you guys?

Do you typically get confused as to what your religious beliefs are, and require someone to correct you? It's not like he was recalling some obscure fact from his past. Can we not even trust the words that come out of his own mouth now?

And since we're on the idiotic topic of religion, I was watching an interview from a POW who with McCain for I believe 3 out of his 5 years. THAT guy said McCain was pretty apathetic about religion in general back then. Since then, McCain has become an Evangelican Christian. WHY do you think he has this new found love for christ? The same reason Barack attended Wright's church for 20 years, but not really. It's all about political connections in high-powered churches.

Stop acting like idiots.

McCain has been pretty honest about his past, and has even said some pretty damning things about himself in interviews. It's a matter of character and credibility in my opinion.


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 12:10 PM by LLoyd45
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
He hasn't lied. As Jamie said, people have claimed that he's a Muslim as some sort of smear tactic. The people who are claiming this are lying.
So BH, are you saying that isn't Obama in the interview being corrected as to what his religion is?

It would be like saying McCain is gay, even though there's nothing to base it on. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but the fact is, he isn't. The TRUTH is, he isn't. Just as Obama isn't, and never has been, Muslim.
There's people that claim the same about Barack Obama, I think the guys name was Larry Sinclair. Whether he is being truthful or not is something only he and Obama know.

A smear tactic is started using false information with the hope that it will be seen as negative. Obama detractors HOPE that saying someone is Muslim will smear their good reputation. But the fact that they choose that information shows what THEY think of Muslims. They think something is wrong with Muslims or else they wouldn't use it as a smear. See how that works?
It's a video of him saying "His Muslim faith", how is that false information? There's nothing wrong with being a Muslim, but there is something wrong with intentionally lying about it. I think I've defended Muslims on a couple threads here, even though I got verbally bashed for doing so.

I'm sorry you don't understand the video in context. Hopefully, others are on the ball enough to see it.
Here we go with that lame out of context BS again.. Can't you come up with something different for a change?
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