Johnny's back from the Gilliland Ranch in Washington.. & "OH BOY"!, page 7
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reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 05:45 PM by starcraft
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James stated in one of the interviews that a MUFON investigator was there, and was actually trying to spread the word that everything that was being seen were satellites. I found this curious, since it is my personal belief that MUFON is not all that they seem to be. I personally believe that MUFON, at least some in thier ranks, have another agenda that belies the one they espouse. That's completely off topic however. Perhaps someone who was there can verify this statement made by James?


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 06:15 PM by NephraTari
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That is an interesting suggestion. It is entirely possible. I have always been leary of reporting officially things that I have seen. I have very little trust in the powers that be, and only reported 2 of them to mufon on the suggestion of a friend some time ago.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 06:30 PM by caitlinfae
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Exactly!! I couldn't agree more...which is why I'm pacing up and down here wringing my hands, can't sleep can't eat...ok...maybe a little exaggeration there....but I'm really looking forward to a real "something!"

Cait



reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 06:50 PM by ZeroGhost
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Gee, that might imply there are people in government who don't know how to govern? Everyone in Mufon is not a debuker with deadening opinions. I imagine there are a few. Every "group" has their rainbow of intelligence.

We don't know the investigator? Wheres the Mufon report? Any investigator whom makes public any "opinion" without due diligence might need to go over protocol and scientific methods set forth in the Mufon manual. You used to have to have a PhD to be an investigator. The knowledge base to be an investigator is not trivial, but anyone before the latest testing upgrade could with a bit of work could pass. Fair amount of physics, radar and aeronautical, radiological, astronomy and associated understanding comes into play. Most of that won't come through a foil hat.

I've do some official investigation, and when I go up might put a spotter or two somewhere at positions near if not on the mountain slope who report from a specific GPS position to triangulate or otherwise get a tangent view and data set. With this many things are possible on site and in later data study.

I did not know Johnny was an investigator, but saw and talked with him at the Mufon conference in August. Is he a Mufon investigator? I know he was investigating my wife!

You there J? Wife says Hi. (you cad!) :lol

ZG

[edit on 9/1/2008 by ZeroGhost]


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:01 PM by ZeroGhost
reply to post by spitefulgod





Hey thanks for the video on CCETI. All but the "big light" guy are old friends I worked with. Been wondering where they where. Abby, Sasha and Mark are great folk, very sharp people, whom I really enjoyed. So glad they are still on the beam.

ZG


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:20 PM by JohnnyAnonymous
Originally posted by ZeroGhost

I did not know Johnny was an investigator, but saw and talked with him at the Mufon conference in August. Is he a Mufon investigator? I know he was investigating my wife!

You there J? Wife says Hi. (you cad!) :lol

ZG


I'm not on the MUFON payroll if thats what your asking ZeroGhost...
My investigative skills have pretty much been learned through the years of hard knocks and lots of "hey, can I fall on my face here"? Lots of trial and error and then I found a MUFON Investigators training manual many years back and have stolen many formulas for my own (shhh.. stolen is such a wrong word here, borrowed would be better suited, or adapted even).

I have made many friends from MUFON throughout the years and like any organization, we/they/whoever, have their good members and their hard to handle members. i personally have always enjoyed flying solo and have pretty much done so for the 25+ years that I've been doing research and field work.

As to your comment about investigating your wife... errr.. hmmm.. you know.. when one steps outside to get some fresh air and there is someone there that's standing nearby, it's a little bit on the diplomatic side that you strike up a conversation with them.. I'm sure the "wifey" told you that all we discussed was archeology and religious ramifications type theories in mankinds known existence on Earth... Oh yeau Baby.. Thats a real big turn-on for any girl/lady..

I think your safe ZeroGhost... now if Dave Rabbit had been there.. then it would've been a different story and Johnny would've made a hasty exit.. stage left even!

And for the love of humanity, if anyone is going to be going to the next Bay Area UFO EXPO in San Jose the end of September.. leave your wife and daughters home because my partner is not only on the prowl.. but he's got box's full of Bush beans with him!

Johnny





[edit on 9/1/2008 by JohnnyAnonymous]
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