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posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 08:11 AM
I am inspired to share this because of all the interesting things that Musselwhite has shared with us. I am hoping some other people may come forward with additional information about some of the observations I have made.

This is an email that I wrote years ago when I was corresponding with Dr. Sauder of "Underground Bases and Tunnels" fame. I am only going to go through it once to make some minor editing and then I am going to post it before I change my mind and edit more:

I wish to keep this completely anonymous and I will have to be purposefully vague on some details so as to conceal my identity and other specifics, but there are some things I have observed here in Massachusetts that are, quite frankly, some of the most interesing facts I've ever been privy to. I want to share this information with you in hopes that somehow you can dig up more information on these facts and expose what is going on. Trust me, if I really thought this was sensitive information related to Nat'l Securty, I would not blatantly share it.

I have been a soldier in the MA Army National Guard for just over ten years, which has played a role in some of the info I am about to share with you. The first few times I was exposed to knowledge of underground operations around here, I thought little of it, more like mild curiousity rather than intrugue.

I have never heard of the facility in Burlington before, but I will ask around about it.

When in college I had a part time job with a private security company that specialized in Federal contracts. When the management found out I had DoD security clearance, they assigned me to an industrial facility in central MA where DoD clearance was required, and all of the security staff were hand-picked by the company president. This facility is located on top of a hill, on one side of which is a small, non-hidden, local underground emergency shelter ("bunker" if you will) left over from the Cold War. That bunker is still used by the local government and I have been inside it and it is being utilized as an ordinary emergency training classroom with a few offices. What was interesting was that this hill, most of which belonged to the private industrial company, was heavily patrolled by our company, even the woods and the chain link fence perimeter. Interestingly, there was no access gate, just a perimeter fence not unlike any typical chain link one would construct to keep the family dog in the backyard. Many times the building guards would be the only ones in the buildings, and access control was so tight it was nearly impossible to enter without being physically let in by a guard. I made the best of my opportunities late at night when I was alone in the main building. I discovered that there were staircases labeled as utility rooms that actually led to sub-basements, including tunnels connected to what I deduced to be buildings disguised as residences nearly 1/4 mile away. One tunnel I am fairly certain once led to the aforementioned bunker, for it terminated in a solid concrete wall. There were not just tunnels connecting buildings to a shelter, rather there were dozens of locked doors (which I could not gain access to with any key I could ever find in any building there) leading off of the main "tunnels". There were three underground levels I knew of, and judging by ceiling height of the tunnels, I believe each floor had its own "rooms" off the sides, as opposed to one large, cavernous area that all the doors may have led to. I never told anyone I worked with about these tunnels, and never asked any other personnel there. Perhaps a key to the use of these rooms, is that these were not leaky, decrepit, poorly-lit old tunnels. Rather, they were virtually spotless, with freshly painted walls, and special rubber-like flooring coated with some kind of antistatic material just like the facility's aboveground labs were. My best guess would be that some kind of work was done in those tunnels, and then materials were passed through the buildings that looked like residences. I have no proof that those "houses" are where the tunnels led, I just figured it out by pacing the tunnels and then checking the distance on a map. When I drove that area, all I saw were houses.

Another experience related to my military service that I unfortunately must be VERY vague about, is the presence of entrances to underground facilities deep in a state forest. (EDIT FOR ATS READERS: I could write a book on this topic, however I generally do not discuss it because I fear it would be too easy to narrow down who I am, since not many people knew the extent of these structures). I am sure it is becoming evident that in the event of great civil unrest, the military will utilize state parks and forests as staging and barracks areas for soldiers, so to speak. My unit has spent lots of time in the park that we would occupy in such an event. There is much more military activity afoot in that park, but I just can't get into detail. I really apologize, but I feel it could help someone narrow down my identity since I don't think many of the details are widely known. Suffice to say there are at least three separate underground structures, two are sized for personnel only and one being large enough to house vehicles. And those are the ones I know of; others could be out there as well. I can't say much, but a couple years ago we actually had to consider taking action against civilians who accidentally stumbled upon some activity. I believe all we would have done was tell them that there was a training exercise going on and that they should not be on the property after dark, per the sign at the gate. We never did reveal our presence to them, but unfortunately soldiers being soldiers, they did see the chemlights we had (stupidly) set up to mark some things during the night, and they knew something was up. Fortunately they were frightened enough to leave the area quickly.

Lest I forget, when I was young I had two experiences that frightened me, and now that I am older, wiser, and have read a lot of interesting literature, I wonder if I was stumbling dangerously near some kinds of military operations.


posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 08:19 AM

The first was when I was about 10 to 14 years old and lived on central Cape Cod, a good 25 miles east of Camp Edwards and Otis AFB. I dare not get into too much detail, because I don't think it would take much for this location to be figured out. Suffice to say there was some strange property that appeared to be an abandoned house and separate garage at the end of a long dirt road. Surrounding land was labeled as conservation land, but we'll get into that later. The house and garage looked run-down but had very modern-looking locks and electronic security systems installed. There were also fresh tire tracks fairly frequently. In the several years I lived nearby, I never saw a single vehicle out there, and believe me you can imagine how often us curious kids played out there . A local neighborhood troublemaker who was older than I told my brother and I that he broke into the garage one day and saw it wasn't a garage at all, but a paved ramp that led underground at a long, low-grade slope, leading to a corrugated steel overhead door. That's all I remember from what he said. I never had any other reason to think anything was happening that was underground in that area.

The other oddity about that particular property I can explain with an incident that I will never forget as long as I live; the place sometimes had no tire tracks or footprints but just "felt" like it was occupied. Then one day we were walking around the house area, there were no fresh tire tracks and no signs of life, the house looked closed up tight, and we were playing in the woods nearby. Myself and three other children looked at the house and noticed in a top floor window was a man dressed in desert camouflage BDUs, with what I now know is a US Marine-style pointed-edge cap, watching us with binoculars through a closed window. We were all very frightened and ran from the area and told our parents.

Through the woods on the other side of that property was another long, winding, and well-traveled dirt road. I do not know where the road originated. It led right up to a boring-looking, average chain link fence gate, again just like in central MA it was nothing special, but it just had a yellow machine of some sort on a pole sticking out of the ground, which must have been an access card reader. There were civilian-looking signs to the effect of, "no trespassing, private property, land patrolled by armed guards and dogs." Being young an impressionable, we never dared go too close to the fence for years. Then one day someone climbed the fence and all hell broke loose. Evidently there were either cameras or seismic sensors, because the boy who climbed the fence only got about 100 feet down the road before a dark-colored SUV came shooting down the road at a high rate of speed. The fence-jumper was already on the fence and the truck was nearly upon him, and the rest of us were running deep into the woods. We soon heard the barking of a dog, and it did not sound friendly. At least two people in dark clothes chased us deep into the woods, never letting the dog loose on us, before they eventually went back to where they came from. Soon after, we saw a small military helicopter flying extremely low, so low we could make out the occupants' faces, and we took to the ground and hid. This was dense pine woods but the helo remained in the area for a while and we remained hidden. Evidently they decided they would not find us and left the area. Knowing what I know now, I believe it was a LOH ("Loach"), or Light Observation Helicopter. I was too scared to notice any branch or unit markings. When I told my parents about it, my father related another story about when he was walking our dog on the beach one day and saw a similar helicopter rise out of the trees in that vicinity, and head west at normal altitude. That's all for that location.

Speaking of Otis AFB, I don't have much to say, but I know for a fact there is an underground component to that base. I know because as an (Army) MP I escorted a vehicle right into it once in 1998. Didn't see much, looked like it might have just been a warehouse, lots of loading docks and truck and forklift activity. Reminded me of the bus terminal at the Port Authority in NYC, an expansive, windowless garage.

(EDIT FOR ATS READERS: That is all I feel comfortable sharing, any input is appreciated, thanks!)

posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 08:56 AM
I don't know how many from the late 50's and early 60's remember the Nike missle bases that alot of us had in our back yards. I had one holding 40 missles a half a mile from my home in Connecticut. Otis Air Base had underground facilities used as a clearing house for information and Comand and Control for the Northeast. The underground sections of Otis are most probably part of that early missle warning system. If I'm not mistaken Otis was part of SAC in those years. An underground Command and Control would make sense!!.


posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 09:42 AM
Yes, Otis is still part of the SAC at least the last time I had reason to be there and interact with the AF guys.

I have been in one of the TOC-type areas and it was aboveground.

What I saw in the underground portion of the base was boring as I said, it was like a warehouse with trucks offloading cargo and forklifts here and there moving things. I did not see much, but I did not see any admin or command-type areas or signs indicating their presence. Pretty much a run-of-the-mill warehouse except underground!

posted on Aug, 26 2008 @ 09:48 PM
Wow some interesting stuff finally from my neck of the woods. Ive heard about the underground stuff on otis growing up and even heard first hand about the undergroung silos. But what really peaks my interest is the strange property east of otis. Would love it if you could provide a more general or exact position just might have to take a drive as its only a 20 min drive away.

posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 10:11 AM
reply to post by therainmaker
it is a good feeling to know people are taking a closer look at their surroundings. this sounds all too familiar. take a closer read at this:

1.2.4 Rural rabbit hole detection: As with urban access points, it will be a mismatch between activity and/or the physical nature of a facility, and it's presumed use or function that will indicate the presence of a rural underground access point. In addition, there are several aspects of rural underground access points that appear to be unique. Most rural underground access points employ a form of radiated electro-magnet field that functions as a wide area deterrent to birds, rodents, and insects. The purpose of the field being to act as a contamination shield or barrier for the underground access point entrance. Next, since rural underground access points receive less intense public scrutiny, their supporting above ground infrastructure is generally speaking, more blatant. The presence of a well maintained home with around the clock human supervision of the suspected facility is common feature. These homes will have multiple satellite dishes, and/or radio antennas. Another common feature of rural rabbit holes is the presence of odd alpha-numeric markings on the reverse side of highway traffic signs located near the underground access point. The following is a list of rural underground access point indicators. 1. A well maintained branch road leading to a little used park or recreational facility. 2. Electrical power lines that are routed near facility, when such routing results in longer line length and/or routing over a natural obstacle (mountain, river, etc.). 3. Electrical power lines or substations much larger than visible local load requirements. 4. Large reservoirs that serve no apparent useful function. Example: not needed for flood control or civilian water supply, or that have larger capacity than is required for presumed function. 5. The presence of truck traffic on rural roads with no known destination, or inappropriate truck types for apparent destination. 6. A public park or recreational facility that is maintained at a level well in excess of other nearby facilities, especially if facility less well known or used than other nearby facilities. 7. Public facility personnel (park rangers, etc.) that are overly nosey and/or suspicious of your activities, especially if personnel occupy the site on a 24/7 basis. 8. Public park or recreational facility where part of facility is fenced off, or accessed by a gated road, or otherwise made inaccessible to the general public. 9. The presence of inappropriate or unusual structures and/or construction methods. Examples: small cinder block building with an electrical power feed normally used on major office buildings. An unmarked, but well maintained trail in public park. An old building (possibly abandoned) with a new door, and expensive lock. 10. People at camp grounds that seem out of place. Example: improperly dressed, or using inappropriate equipment, or having unusual accents (these are people taking a recreational break from underground facilities). 11. Well maintained roads that are not shown on maps, or follow a different route than shown on maps. 12. A noticeable lack of wildlife (birds, small animals, insects, etc.) in a location that would normally support a large wildlife population (see 1.2.4 preface). 13. Any of the applicable indicators listed under urban rabbit hole detection. Example: unbalanced traffic flows, etc. As with urban rabbit hole detection, this list is far from complete. It is intended to illustrate what sort of indicators to look for, when searching for rural underground access points. Again, all of the techniques employed in urban rabbit hole discovery are applicable to rural underground access points. However, it must be stressed that rural access point detection and observation is far more dangerous. Not only are there less people to hide your activities, but a larger faction of those people who are present will likely be rabbit hole occupants or guardians. Failure to exercise due caution may lead to becoming an unwilling underground guest. For this reason, the author suggests one or more of the following precautions. 1. Be very discreet in rural underground access point observation. 2. Always inform a trusted friend of your intended destination and expected time of return. 3. When possible, use a group recreational outing as cover for your activities. 4. Spread your observation activities over several months, at random times and days of the week. 5. Assume you are being watched at all times, and act appropriately. i.e. As somebody who is enjoying a day in the park.

maybe snoopyuk can get a screen shot of area.

posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 11:03 AM
rainmaker... I'm from the area as well and find this interesting. As regards the Central MA facilities, have you considered checking assessor's records to see who maintains titles to the houses that you suspect may be the above-ground points of the facility? Are you able to say what industry the 'hosting' company is in?

posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by jtma508
that a good idea. i also ckecked the county tax assessor's office and found several surprises to ownership(s). some pieces to a puzzle came into view. regarding those residences read this:

However, it must be stressed that rural access point detection and observation is far more dangerous. Not only are there less people to hide your activities, but a larger faction of those people who are present will likely be rabbit hole occupants or guardians. Failure to exercise due caution may lead to becoming an unwilling underground guest. For this reason, the author suggests one or more of the following precautions.

i regularly check on those houses once occupied by my neighbors on the tax assessor's site to note changes and there have been changes.

all in all. it looks just like a dirt road with a few houses......just blends in with the surrounding environment but i can assure you someone is always watching.

posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 12:05 PM

Originally posted by musselwhite
reply to post by therainmaker
it is a good feeling to know people are taking a closer look at their surroundings. this sounds all too familiar. take a closer read at this:

[maybe snoopyuk can get a screen shot of area.

if you give me the details of the area in question i can certainly give you a screenshot of the area.


posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 01:41 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

As for the company in central MA, there's a Catch-22 involved. I had to sign a nondisclosure agreement, yet since then (I believe I last worked there in about 1999) the things they do and their role in the overall project, have been publicly admitted. So I don't know what I can say! I can tell you that while the technology itself was impressive, all that was done there was pretty run-of-the-mill, painstakingly detailed electronics R&D, troubleshooting, and assembly. Thus the antistatic flooring all over the place, almost everywhere except the offices and conference rooms.

I no longer live anywhere near there and made no efforts to ever learn about the nearby houses; if I were to spend time researching anything I have shared here, the strange goings-on near the house I used to live in, on Cape Cod, are far more interesting and suspicious than anything involving an electronics company.

I sent a PM to "Martinez" regarding the Cape Cod location, but I did not receive a response. I looked it up on Google Earth and it appears that the house and garage area has been leveled, which would probably mean it is now someone's beach house, knowing how real estate works in that area. The other area near the strange gate and where the helicopters appeared to come from, still appears as thick woods on Google Earth, then again I have not been out there in a long time and I can not remember enough to attempt to pick out roads and specific features.

I re-read the website that Musselwhite shared, discussing how to spot signs of possible "rabbit hole" activity, and I remembered one more thing about Cape Cod. I do not think it matters anymore since the area appears bulldozed on Google Earth, but maybe, just maybe, someone reading this will jog their memory. There was a valley (not too many hills on the maybe this will narrow it down) between the piece of land the house/garage sat on, and the area where the gate and other road were. The valley extended out perpendicularly from the dunes on inland, to give you an idea. There were utility poles running down the middle of the valley, I don't know where they originated but they ended at a small (I mean SMALL, as in approx. 5 x 5 feet) little booth that was built into the side of the hill. The door lock was always hacked off by vandals even shortly after a new one appeared. I remember that inside were some gauges (I was a young kid, I had no idea what I was looking at) but I think they were smaller than normal electrical utility meters, and some large switches (each was locked with locks that the vandals could not get off), and the gauges and switches seemed to be meeting the outdoor wires near the top of the little room, then below the switch panels, the wires were grouped into a few different pipes (maybe 5 inches in diameter each), and disappeared DOWN into the ground below the booth. I know it is not easy to explain, and I do not know much about electrical utilties, but my best guess is that the meters and switches in the shack somehow re-distributed the power coming in and sent the power down the wire bundles that were encased in the pipes. I do not remember how many pipes there were, nor how many wires, I would say no less than two but no more than five. These things, combined with the single time that our local troublemaker told us that he saw a ramp leading to what appeared to be underground, lead me to believe that something MAY have been taking place underground there. One thing I have yet to do is ask my brother is he and his friends ever saw anything more than I did, or heard anything else about the garage with the ramp inside of it.

One more thing about the Cape Cod I know some of you live for a good "conspiracy" and sit there waiting to hear the next tale of government covert action. Well I hate to burst your bubbles, but I am a realist, it takes A LOT of evidence to convince me of something, I tend to look at every situation with an objective eye and look at both sides of the story so to speak. So now that my little preamble is done have to realize that part of Cape Cod is full of extremely wealthy people, some of whom are eccentric and some are very xenophobic. Yes yes I am not ashamed to admit (though I was for years), I was raised a "spoiled rich kid" as the saying goes, and I lived in one of those neighborhoods. All of the things I observed, including the high security, strange comings and goings at the house and garage, can all possibly be related to just some wealthy people who value their privacy. I know some folks in the area, for instance, had valuable art collections or vehicles, for which they had very fancy security systems that would look strange to an outsider. The underground activity could have been related to storing something valuable or perhaps discreetly moving the valuable items in and out of the house without neighbors seeing all of the driveway traffic.

It could have been anything, but I admit that some signs point to it possibly being government-related activity, namely the OD-green military helicopter(s), the man with the desert camouflage uniform on, and the sensitivity of the intrusion detection system near the gate.

posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 12:48 PM
Hello RainMaker and hey there SnoopyUK !!!!

Wow ! Great description of your "rabbit hole" experience, RainMaker !

I am Musellwhite's ex-husband. I lived at 584 Harper Valley Road in Ellijay with Musselwhite from 2002-2005, and could tell you unbelievable things that she and I experienced living 200 yards from the rabbit hole "chicken houses".

My email address is

(and, no, I'm not shy or afraid whatsoever about posting my email address or name on ATS for all the world to see!!!)

Feel free to email me if you'd like to privately corrrespond and compare notes. I'm sure Musselwhite will do so as well. Your experiences there in MA match precisely with our experiences in GA.

I look forward to an email from you.

Thanks for the riveting post!

posted on Sep, 13 2008 @ 04:52 PM
Thanks Mark, I sent you an email.

Yes it is all very intriguing, however as I said, we can not jump to conclusions about anything here, the most we can do is speculate and do some research. I admit that the events on Cape Cod have been eating away at me for years and it is about time I do something about my curiousity. I am making some initial plans to research the land in the area I mentioned, using every resource I can, to include town records, old and new topo maps (I'm a map nut), aerial imagery, etc.

posted on Sep, 14 2008 @ 08:25 PM
Rainmaker - check your email. Got yours and sent reply.

You should know that MUSSELWHITE speaks (posts) much more candidly about what we experienced at the "rabbit hole" in Ellijay, than do I. It is a form of self-therapy for her- she must express what she experienced because she can nol;onger suppress the memories, or she suffers negative psychological consequences of keeping quite about it all. I have my oqn reasons for not sharing that information in ANY public forum. And it is not out of fear of reprisals or anything like that, because I fear nothing that the NWO goons can do to me. The reason I don't share it here or anywhere on the internet is, well, It's because, frankly, no one could possibly believe what we saw, heard, and felt out there. night after night after night. It defies descriptions and even the imaginations of 99.99% of the sheople out there, and they will certainly discount it out of hand. Only people with similar experiences could even remotely/posibly relate to what we experienced. MUSSELWHITE refers to it as having a "scf-fi show" right in our own back yard every night. That doesn't even come close to describing it. (Do you know anything at all about Project BLUEBEAM?) It far exceeeds anything Hollywood has ever produced, or the X-files, etc.

I'll explain a little about that if/when we get a chance to speak or chat somehow. Looking forward to your future posts, and will be checking this thread regularly for updates on the MA and other locations you are investigating

Thx. Mark Spann

posted on Sep, 14 2008 @ 11:14 PM
Awesome rainmaker keep us up to date with any research you do. If you need any recon first hand let me know Im right around the corner.

posted on Sep, 15 2008 @ 06:36 AM
reply to post by spannmark

Honestly? I don't presume to be able to change your mind but I'd like to offer a thought. Although relating what you have experienced will undoubtedly bring a tidal wave of doubters and detractors, there are very likely others out there that have similar experiences and may doubt their own senses. By relating your experiences it may bring others forward. Tieing all these (currently) disparate nodes together may provide some overall understanding of the 'big picture'. Bluebeam has always been a particular concern to me. It plays into the whole NWO issue among others. Please reconsider Mark.

posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 10:22 AM
reply to post by jtma508
jtma508, this thread has all the military markings of what mark and i experienced at and i feel certain therainmaker stumbled onto a military underground infrastructure. and i also feel certain that this thread will not go any further as threads on ats for the past 6 months have been pushed down the ladder to avoid detection. i also feel that military underground infrastructures blend perfectly with the surround community after it has been completed to also go undetected.

posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 10:29 AM
Rainmaker, can you tell me where in Cape Cod and be a bit more specific?
You can u2u me if you want.

Anywhere between Falmouth and Hyannis??? Strange things are happening in the skies above us lately. Thank you.

posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 10:39 AM
reply to post by dgtempe

here is a map from Cape Cod, Falmouth, Hyannis. Cape Cod to Hyannis is approximately 8 miles and from Hyannis to Falmouth is approximately 21 miles. i am curious as to what sort of strange happenings in the sky?

posted on Nov, 8 2008 @ 05:52 PM
imah young kid so im jus bein curious

i live mad close to burlington and id love ta know if theres actually a base so close ta me

obviously i wont be going exploring after reading this lol however id just like to know whats going on around me, so please find out for me? [=

posted on Nov, 8 2008 @ 10:01 PM
My apologies for not keeping up with this thread, and for not being on ATS as often as usual lately.

Nothing new to report, as I no longer live in MA and have not had the time to do any more research. I will pick up the ball and keep it rolling soon.

dgtempe - I will be sending a U2U when I have a free moment the next day or so; I did not expect to do much posting this evening and am feeling quite tired and am heading for bed.

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