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1 cor 13:[8] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
[9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
[10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
when the bible was completed, these miracles were no longer needed. one could deduce the true faith by reading searching the scriptures.
Originally posted by drevill
One day a farmer was walking home and heard screams.cries for help.
he shot off and found a boy struggling to free himslef from a bog and rescued him. later that day the boys father went to the farmers house to give him a reward as he was a nobleman.
The farmer refused the money saying he didn't want paying for helping. during the conversation the farmers son came to the door also.
the noble man asked if this was the father son and the farmer confirmed it was. The noble man offered as a reward to pay for education to the same level as his own son.
the farmers son went on to graduate from st marys hospital medical school.
years later the noble mans son was stricken with pneumonia but was saved by penicillin.
the farmers son was Alexander Fleming and the nobleman's son was Winston Churchill.
miracle in my eyes.
Originally posted by andre18
Did you know MANY other Christian denominations disagree with you.
There are millions of Christians who don't believe the "gifts" were ever done away with. Many think it's impossible to be a "true Christian" unless you've experienced the Holy Ghost directly through one of these spiritual gifts. For example, Pentecostals don't think you're "really" saved unless you've spoken in tongues or had some other "spiritual gift" (In my opinion, healing and prophesying are too easy to disprove... which is why most people just speak in tongues.)
Did you know MANY other Christian denominations disagree with you. There are millions of Christians who don't believe the "gifts" were ever done away with.
Originally posted by pureevil81
reply to post by NOTurTypical
logical fallicies, nah, its more of differing opinions on the same scripture.
to say that another person or in this case many peoples interpretation of scripture is wrong, and yours is right, is wrong all of itself.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by pureevil81
reply to post by NOTurTypical
logical fallicies, nah, its more of differing opinions on the same scripture.
to say that another person or in this case many peoples interpretation of scripture is wrong, and yours is right, is wrong all of itself.
He used 2 logical fallacies in his argument. Just because the majority holds position "X", doesn't mean that position "X" is true.
The guy can present his argument without using fallacies I'm sure, well, let's just say "I hope".
PreTrib didn't watch them I don't think.
like jesus said, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and he will never go hungry.
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by NOTurTypical
PreTrib didn't watch them I don't think.
I'm looking for some time, NOTurTypical. I have not forgotten your request.
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by miriam0566
Miriam, you said:
like jesus said, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and he will never go hungry.
Jesus didn't say this. It is not in the Bible.
Originally posted by pureevil81
im still not convinced that the bible says the gifts are done away with
John 14:12
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.
Matthew 17: 19-20
20 And he says to them, Because of your little faith: for truly I say to you, If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, Be moved from this place to that; and it will be moved; and nothing will be impossible to you.
fortunately for me, serving god is about following the bible, not popular opinion
ive been to a pentacostal church twice, never have i seen anyone suddenly speak another (real) language.