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This passage, then, is a plain statement of the temporary character of some gifts.
You can sin to your hearts content and right before you die you can ask for forgiveness and it will be granted? Is it really that easy to get into heaven?
Either way I need to reread the bible again,
Originally posted by pureevil81
reply to post by NOTurTypical
this is a very good point, i agree whole heartedly that tongues is not for today.
i have friends that go to church and claim they speak in tongues, every ime i point out scripture as you 2 have they get really quiet.
so its agreed at least that speaking in tongues doesnt happen past the day of pentecost?
But also they were thinking that those anointed with the spirit to speak in a different tongue (i.e. a different known language),
Let's read what Paul taught.
I Corinthians 14:18-19, "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than you all: Yet IN THE CHURCH I had rather speak five words with my UNDERSTANDING, that by my voice I might teach OTHERS also, than ten thousand MEANINGLESS words in an unknown tongue".
Thirdly, there will be a great revival, there will be millions of people saved and martyred for Christ during the tribulation,
so its agreed at least that speaking in tongues doesnt happen past the day of pentecost?
It's a logical fallacy to use the exception to define the rule.
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by NOTurTypical
But also they were thinking that those anointed with the spirit to speak in a different tongue (i.e. a different known language),
1 Cor. 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Originally posted by pureevil81
reply to post by PreTribGuy
youre right, i agree.
im kinda lost in the scriptures as you explained in your post, so thanks for helping me to understand better. i appreciate the effort involved.
"Few" what percentage would you consider to be "few" 3%? 1%? .5%?
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Emphasis mine:
Thirdly, there will be a great revival, there will be millions of people saved and martyred for Christ during the tribulation,
I cannot find in Scripture the word "millions" saved.
Jesus said:
Matt 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
The people doing it now are ravening wolves in sheeps clothing.
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by NOTurTypical
It's a logical fallacy to use the exception to define the rule.
Please explain how I did just that? (You may be right, but I want the chance to defend my words).
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by NOTurTypical
The people doing it now are ravening wolves in sheeps clothing.
IF (big IF!), you are saying that the Gifts of the Spirit, used now, in the Church, are just "wolves in sheeps clothing", I disagree.
If you make that statement, you will "lump me" in with the "wolves".
Revelation 7:9
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;"
I began to "allow for it".
That PERHAPS...I was wrong...all along.