Will Bush Revoke/Re-Write The 22nd Amendment, To Hold A 3rd Term In Office?, page 4
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 01:31 PM by tallcool1
reply to post by oceanaut1



Unfortunately, you are probably right. I guess I am slowly coming out of my belief in this illusion that "we the people" have any say anymore. Hopefully we can get this country to change - not the so called "change-but-no-specifics-because-there-will-be-no-real-change-except-higher-taxes" change that Obama represents and not the "change-but-I-will-be-exactly-the-same-as-Bush" that McCain represents. We need real change and I hope we can do something about it before it's too late.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 01:40 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by doomsday2012
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That Mother Fu*@#r can do whatever he wants!! He cheated two elections, there is no reason to think that he can't do whatever he wants! Di you know that he is opening the borders to Mexico and Canada for free trade? It's called the "North American Union". Look it up! He did this without the consent of the American people and Congress, and he did it right before his last election and never told anybody about it because he would have never gotten re-elected! Is there a human being on this continent that can get rid of him? We couldn't get that lucky!


Read the "Political Collusion" thread on my signature, I've went into a lot of detail there about the North American Union, the imminent destruction of our national boundaries, and the Amero.

Calmly talking about it, and working towards being a part of the solution, instead of being part of the problem is what to do. Being intelligent means no matter how bad we want to pick up the pitchforks and torches, to go chase the bastard monster, instead using your brain to outsmart him, by picking up a pen and paper, and getting into the Political Arena might be the better choice. Personally, I see that he's made so many extremely selfish decisions for himself and Cheney, without giving a damn what the citizens want, and using "terrorism" as a false dichotomy towards manipulating the masses to follow along like lemmings off a cliff.

The people are scared, that's for certain, but they do not understand that they are truly scared because of the man leading them unwittingly towards their own destruction, via them being the enemy Bush is speaking about because Cheney, the Pentagon, and Bush all see the American population as the enemy, because people who can actually think are the problem to them.



reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 01:51 PM by oceanaut1
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When traveling under an Israeli passport, they can travel in secrecy without our govts. knowledge of where they have been or where they are going. For example, if I flew to Israel on a foreign passport, our govt. may see I flew to Isreal though what they don't see is where I would go from there since THAT information is held as a close secret within the Israeli govt. and is given on a need to know basis whereas NO American is on that 'need to know' list. This is how they travel and create all kinds of 'false flag' operations around the world to suit there purpose. The Likud party believes strongly in Zionism and is responsible for the encroachments on the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza Strip etc. www.cia.gov...

If Israel chose to invade these countries and continue to deny Palestinians a state or sovereignty, that is on them...not US. Many Jewish rabbis and scholars have argued endlessly about such issues as being unconstitutional and dangerous for fellow Isrealis though the problem is worsened by the fact that these areas are already developed/settled by Isreaelis of whom refuse to leave and this creates much division within the Isreali govt. itself. It is a shame that innocent Jews may be implicated for the actions of their own govt. though they never spoke out to the effect of making the changes necessary for a stable political regime in the M.E.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 02:03 PM by philjwolf
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



sorry.. that could only happen in your dreams... which would probably be a nightmare.. for you. Personally.. I believe he will be happy to get out of office.. with out a second attack from terrorist.. then he will have something to brag about. Im convinced as soon as we pull our troops back, they will hit us again over here.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 02:06 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by philjwolf
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sorry.. that could only happen in your dreams... which would probably be a nightmare.. for you. Personally.. I believe he will be happy to get out of office.. with out a second attack from terrorist.. then he will have something to brag about. Im convinced as soon as we pull our troops back, they will hit us again over here.


If you honestly think I want something like this to happen, you're nuts.

It's the farthest thing I want in the world, I never wanted him to steal the election in 2000.

I sure hope to God you and everyone else who's said it here are correct.

I want him out of office, but I do not see the other two choices as viable options either.

I've just noticed Bush and Cheney have been extremely quiet, not supporting the next potential President, so much as quietly watching and waiting.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 02:51 PM by XIDIXIDIX
Originally posted by oceanaut1

The problem my freind is that a true patriot such as Ron Paul will never have a chance in getting elected until true campaign finance reform is enacted and both corrupt Republican and Democratic 'parties' are dissolved. Both parties are for purchase by the elite.


That is my point "my friend", Campaign finace is irrelevent if a nation intends to purge both parties clean of any and all incumbents, it wouldn't matter who you voted for it is so symbolic of the real power we as voters have. The whole Idea is to vote for the unknown guy and shake out everyone. Sure we would have the blind leading the blind but I think we would make it ok with a bunch a rookies in there that haven't tasted bribes in the name of lobby and all that comshaw they have working with the "good ole boys" etc. With a Congress and Senate watching what his colleagues are doing because it means their job too if the other guy is dirty. This works wonders in the Military and I don't see why it wouldn't here unless you have to insist this dark envisioned revelation of a Country within smelling distance of anarchy living off food stores in some do it yourself underground bunker all victims of the "elites". I don't give a rats ass about them and quite frankly I think you give all that stuff waaay tooo much creedence. Ron Paul didn't have a chance because he doesn't know how to speak up other than the written word, but has no presence and the personality of a tree stump. Would I have voted for him? Yes. but had we gone in to remove them rather than put them in office, they would not be under the influence of these alleged puppet masters and would be unlikely they would feel safe cozying up to them in the aftermath of the biggest exodus of incumbents in our history. The framers have safe guards we can use if we come together and simply trust the system they mapped out without worrying about the Rothchilds or Zionists, because they wouldn't have years and years of entrenched raport with their bought and paid for political patsy



People here on this board have been lied to and deceived for soooo long that they yearn to rediscover what 'American' means and meant.


I agree with that


Oh how things have changed.


I don't know how old you are but I imagine I am older than you and it seems to me the more things change the more they stay the same.

Is anyone, rich or poor happy?


I know many many people that are very happy, don't ask me how or why though.


My sister is one the wealthiest people in this country and they find it hard to find 'fulfullment'. Makes one wonder eh?


Not at all,, and I know people who get by on very little and they are the most happy people you'll ever meet.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 03:34 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by mental modulator



Yeah, no one I know wants this, but every one else is talking about talking points of Obama or McCain.

I thought this might be a very sure possibility and no one had brought it up that I has seen so far.


reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 05:49 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by Nero1337



Presidential orders can be overturned either by Congress or the next sitting President. Presidential orders are not laws as only Congress can create a new law. You are right it is the law per se of the moment, but it can be done away with in hours if not minutes should Congress take exception to it.
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