Originally posted by Jenna
Originally posted by RavagedSky
A soldier is nothing but a paid murderer. I will never raise arms against someone I have never met just because a concept like "the government"
tells me that violence and murder is ok when I do it in their name.
Really? What about the thousands of soldiers who have never even shot at someone let alone killed them? Are they paid murderers too? And you wouldn't
shoot someone who was trying to kill you? Really? You wouldn't even attempt to save your own life? Have you any clue what restrictions our military
is under? They cannot just shoot people, nor do they. If you actually spoke to someone who has been overseas you would know that they don't just
shoot and kill everyone they see. They practically have to be shot before they can do anything to save their own lives.
[edit on 7-8-2008 by Jenna]
There is quite a difference between defending yourself when an armed criminal breaks into your house in the middle of the night, and defending
yourself in a land that does not belong to you where you have been deliberately dropped with weapons to force a brutal regime change.
You can't really call it self-defense when you know that your job title involves the high probability of being attacked.
You are a paid murderer if you are receiving payment to kill others. That's it. It doesn't matter if you're a soldier, a hitman, or a terrorist.
Patriotism is an immoral and vicious virtue.
"Patriotism in its simplest, clearest, and most indubitable meaning is nothing but an instrument for the attainment of the government's ambitious
and mercenary aims, and a renunciation of human dignity, common sense, and conscience by the governed, and a slavish submission to those who hold
power. That is what is really preached wherever patriotism is championed. Patriotism is slavery."
—Leo Tolstoy, Christianity and Patriotism
"A good soldier is a blind, heartless, soulless, murderous machine. He is not a man. He is not a brute, for brutes kill only in self defense. All
that is human in him, all that is divine in him, all that constitutes the man has been sworn away when he took the enlistment roll. His mind, his
conscience, aye, his very soul, are in the keeping of his officer. No man can fall lower than a soldier—it is a depth beneath which we cannot go."
— Jack London
I believe in protecting family, friends, property, happiness, and the right to life and liberty.
I do not, however, believe in protecting something as immoral and violent as a state.
[edit on 7-8-2008 by RavagedSky]