In Defiance of World Court, Texas Executes Mexican Criminal

reply to post by jackinthebox


It is not a revenge killing. It is the judge and jury deciding to measure out the full extent of the law, which in this state is the death penalty.

reply to post by asmeone2


Good point.


What happen here was a POWER GRAB.

People who we refer to as, "The Powers that Be", tryed to SUPERIMPOSE international LAW...


Do you understand that?

This was a power-grab...

And who saved us???


Who saved us this time? The same people that saved our guns a while Back...


Thank George W. Bush for this. The 2 justices that he apointed VOTED WITH THE UNITED STATES, as they did on the issue of the 2nd ammendment...

Justices Roberts and Alito voted WITH US...

What does that mean?

What would have Gores apointees, or Kerrys apointees have voted? With Rock Soild Conservatives like Clarence Thomas? Or with far-left-whackos like Ruth BatersGinsburg...

I shouldn't have to tell you...

we are at a 5-4 split now, 5 with the US on most issues, and 4 against the US and her intrests...

So, with EITHER Gore, or Kerry, what would we have here...

Ill tell you what, with this decision ALONE, we have a PRECIDENT of INTERNATIONAL LAW, being ABOVE US LAW...

Think about it, and think about the OTHER implications...
Then think about Geroge W Bush... his greatest legacy is going to be his SUPREME COURT JUSTICES... who so far, have done thier job GREAT...

As a US president, GWB succeds, because of his appointess
As a Trans-Nationalist GWB but be a complete failure... If he IS involded in some huge NWO conspiricy, where his goal is to lead the World into a one0world goverment, he is FAILING MISERLBLY...

And when you look back at Clintons appointees... you have to be horrified...

And that brings us to this years elections...

Who would our canidates pick for Supreme Court Justices...
Ill let you decide... And its THIS ISSUE, to me, that is the most important issue...


[edit on 8/6/2008 by TKainZero]

reply to post by TKainZero


Um. I'm gonna say this. Boy Bush is not from Texas, he just lived here...

And I'm going to say this. The decisions of the people that Bush appointed does NOT excuse his own bad decisions.

reply to post by asmeone2
The world court looked like a bunch of elitist snobs who could not have cared less for the young girls who suffered unbelievable terror before they were cruelly murdered. It is one thing to be against the death penalty it is quite another to want foriegners to be given less severe penalties when they murder women ,or in this case young girls, in Texas.

reply to post by eradown


Once again, I think it boils down to the right of a country to enforce their laws regardless of where the guilty party is from.

Honestly, I don't think that this would have been an issue at all if the guy was from any country other than Mexico.

reply to post by TKainZero


"Let he who is without guilt cast the first stone..."

reply to post by TKainZero

By letting criminals go?

I never suggested that, nor would I endorse it.

By spending UNTOLD amount of money trying to Rehabilitate them...

You seem to be unaware of the fact that executing a criminal costs the taxpayer more dollars than letting them rot in prison for the rest of their natural lives.

Unless of course we just skip due process altogether and go back to lynch-mob justice. Fancy a witchunt?

Heres an account of the CRIME this man commited.

Here, i hadn't seen this before, and its pretty Graphic, but a MUST read for any ADLUT.


Heres and Execrpt.

The gang members ran and grabbed Elizabeth and pulled her down the incline, off of the tracks. Testimony showed that Jenny had gotten free and could have run away but returned to Elizabeth when she cried out for Jenny to help her. For the next hour or so, these beautiful, innocent young girls were subjected to the most brutal gang rapes that most of the investigating officers had ever encountered. The confessions of the gang members that were used at trial indicated that there was never less than 2 men on each of the girls at any one time and....

I can't even type what happen to them.

Just read the link, and tell me what you think.

reply to post by johnsky


I understand what you're saying, and can agree with it in cases, like you describe, of people visiting a country for a short time. In the case of a short visit it is almost impossible to know all the laws in that country, and such VISITORS would need and should be allowed help from their country.


This however is not the case here, this man LIVED in this country for 15 years, he was not visiting, he grew up in this country. A person is well aware of the major laws that are in place in the country that they grew up in. He was well aware of the fact that rape is against the law, and so is torture, and murder. He also knew that he could receive the death sentence in that state. I personally don't know of any country where rape, and murder are legal.


So yes you are right in cases of people visiting another country, but not in a case where a person has lived in that country for 15 years, especially when they grew up here.

reply to post by asmeone2

This is the whole crux of my point. It never should hae been an international issue in the first place.

Well, the US allowed it to become an international issue when they let the foreign national into the country.

What good is having a law in the first place if they can be superceeded at the whim of other countries?

Other countries have as much right to protect their citizens abroad as we do. You can't say it's alright for the US to interfere when an American is about to be caned, but not alright for Mexico to say something when one of their people is about to be executed.

reply to post by asmeone2

It is not a revenge killing. It is the judge and jury deciding to measure out the full extent of the law, which in this state is the death penalty.

A law that is contrary to the beliefs of the international community. They frown upon it even when it is used against our own, so they certainly are not going to sit idly by when we apply it to the citizen of another country.

The true, "full extent of the law" reaches into international jurisdiction in this case and the others like it.

reply to post by TKainZero


Way to drum up support for the Liberals.

If you don't respect your neighbors, don't expect them to respect you.

If this is the defining moment of the Conservatives and the Bush Presidency, then they have clearly failed miserably and completely.

reply to post by eradown


Makes no difference what or how terrible the crime was. They are against the death penalty.

reply to post by asmeone2

Honestly, I don't think that this would have been an issue at all if the guy was from any country other than Mexico.

It most certainly would have. Probably more so if he had been European. Even if he had come from a nation that used the death penalty themselves there may have been pressure against the US given our less-than righteous image in the world today.

reply to post by TKainZero

Makes no difference whatsoever. All of the deatils are nothing more than emotional appeal which you have shared to solicit an emotional response.

Personally, I think death was too easy for the scumbag, but that's neither here nor there. The point remains that killing him accomplishes nothing, but does more harm in the long run.

reply to post by jackinthebox


First, nice Post-Trocity... 5 in a row... Nice... Use the edit...



or it turned to 6 as i write this....


PLEASE, i don't want to misusndestand you, do you realy want to have more 'Euro-pean' veiws in the US, suplandted over US veiws...