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posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

...never does Obama encourage "giving up" any rights for a "world government". That is a complete and drastic twist of his message. In fact, he speaks very highly of the responsibility of governing ones self and family and community. He talks about it all the time.


Thank you, Benevolent Heretic. I don't see our rights being taken away either; I see our freedoms to be greatened.




posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 09:55 AM
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I'm not sure what i find more disturbing...

The fact that Obama is being blasted by neocons for ambitions of great diplomacy, or that someone is quoting Mein Kampf as if it were non-biased credible and reputable information.




"Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be 'discovered' by an election."
Adolf Hitler
Mein Kampf


Here's another one for ya.


Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless.
- Hitler


Doesnt seem too meaningful to me.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by angrydog
hm well..yes ..that whas my first thought when i hear "new world" in his speech



Hope you don't feel that way about Aladdin.




(Just kidding with ya.
)



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:03 AM
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I find this video clip very funny. I especially like the Star Wars Darth Vader theme song in the background.


This clip looks like something they would show on the Daily show.

By saying Obama's speech was for a NWO, SkyNews is putting words into Obama's mouth.

Now this is a NWO speech.



I think I find differences with Obama's speech. More fear mongering from the peanut gallery.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by angrydog
hm well..yes ..that whas my first thought when i hear "new world" in his speech



Hope you don't feel that way about Aladdin.




(Just kidding with ya.
)


well..krauts also have humor dont worry



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:39 AM
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That sent shivers down my spine, that crazy old bastard.

Pardon the one liner.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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When will the Obama maniacs (SHEEOPLE) wake up and stop drinking the Clinton/Obama Socialist/Communist Koolaid. It's a drug! Read his book "The Audacity of Hope" It reads a lot like "Mein Kempf" Adolf Hitler's book written in Prison. Before the rise of the Third Riech.

Barack Hussein Obama is a choreographed puppet to the NWO!!!

A marxist by another word, Progressive to others. A Communist he is.

"Extingush the light of Freedom" koombya, smoke a doobie... let's all hold hands and play nice for a change...

You all want Change? Change to an America of Socialism, Higher Taxes, Higher food and gas prices? Protest any War and talk to the enemy who wants nothing more then to cut your head off, after converting you to Islam!

Personally, I like my Freedom to choose and I choose to own many weapons and avoid being persecuted by any person, place or thing.

I do not sit in my basement being a netizen, I read this site because I find it entertaining.

Sign me a law abiding citizen Soldier, waiting for the next fight!



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by VDOG.45

 




You all want Change? Change to an America of Socialism, Higher Taxes, Higher food and gas prices? Protest any War and talk to the enemy who wants nothing more then to cut your head off, after converting you to Islam!

Personally, I like my Freedom to choose and I choose to own many weapons and avoid being persecuted by any person, place or thing.





You sound like a real peace lover. And with the Bush talk you just gave to everyone I'd assume you believe your way of thinking is the only way and none are the wiser. You're no better the your so called enemies.

Obama's attempting to rally the allies and communicate with the "enemy" through diplomatic means, instead of using crap intelligence and bomb runs to prove how small their dicks really are.






[edit on 25-7-2008 by Tomis_Nexis]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis

Obama's attempting to rally the allies and communicate with the "enemy" through diplomatic means, instead of using crap intelligence and bomb runs to prove how small their dicks really are.




Touche!



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Quazga

What I want in a leader is someone who is well liked by both our friends and our enemies.


Why is that?
Are you saying the next 9-11 won't be as painful if our enemies like us?

I'm really trying to understand the logic, by trying to appease our enemies means they dictate what we must do.

“An appeaser is a guy who throws his friends to the alligator in hopes that the alligator will eat him last.” - Winston Churchill



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro

Originally posted by Quazga

What I want in a leader is someone who is well liked by both our friends and our enemies.


Why is that?
Are you saying the next 9-11 won't be as painful if our enemies like us?

I'm really trying to understand the logic, by trying to appease our enemies means they dictate what we must do.

“An appeaser is a guy who throws his friends to the alligator in hopes that the alligator will eat him last.” - Winston Churchill


It's to prevent another 9/11 from happening through communication. Like any relationship, no matter the cause, communication is key. Our "enemies" won't dictate the US...once again COMMUNICATION, negotiations. Why do YOU find this so hard to understand, has your mind been over come with guns n ammo that the only recourse for anything is through false intelligence , political jargon thrown at you and the only solution being "destroy them"?

The Bush Era has done a number on a few of you, Wow.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 01:31 PM
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NOPE!
You can lead a horse to water but you cna't make him drink. Same for terrorists. There is no guarantee that for every weapon we lay down the enemy will do the same, in fact they will only pick up another.

You are extremely arrogant in thinking the enemy thinks like you because their definition of negotiation is different from yours/ours.

Better safe than sorry.
Don't know where you've been but we have prevented other 9-11's.
BTW, 9-11 stared being planned during the Clinton era.


[edit on 25-7-2008 by Alxandro]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro

Better safe than sorry.
Don't know where you've been but we have prevented other 9-11's.
BTW, 9-11 stared being planned during the Clinton era.


[edit on 25-7-2008 by Alxandro]



Yes, planned by the very same people you support, your current gov't. There will always be terrorists, but if you keep using their methods of operation on them, well then this'll never end. Time for a change.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Perplexed
Isn't it ironic that Osama is apologizing ...
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This Muslim has no class at all…


And you speak of Irony? No class, huh?




And yet you fail to address the gist of the post. Why was Obama apologizing to Germany on behalf of America? Doesn't that spit in the face of the soldiers who fought against the Third Reich in the second world war?



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by MagicaRose
Did anyone see the evening news tonight? My husband and I couldn't believe what we were seeing when Obama walked down the catwalk with no security around him.


I bet a lot of people had their fingers crossed at that moment!



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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Woo-Hoo! That was funny!

Hey, the reason I decided to vote for Obama was that I was looking up the rumors that I read here - researching to find the truth - and the more I discovered about him the more I liked him.

And my support for him has just gotten stronger, the more I learn. So, it's thanks to the haters that I'm voting for him.


So you're mainly voting for Obama just to spite the anti-Obama crowd on this board. Now that's an informed decision!

Wow, guess you'll show all of us.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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Again, my opposition to Obama is based on where he stands on the issues. I've even gone so far as to post them in another thread, page 2 (www.abovetopsecret.com...). But I've yet to see you do the same even though I've asked you repeatedly.

As for Obama's character, it's hard to tell whether this man is real or not and whether he's got ulterior motives because of all the whitewash in the liberal media. His track record to date doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence.

Neither does John McCain character-wise, but I do agree with him on a majority of the issues which is why I will vote for the man.

Let me remind you also that the issues are what concern us all, not just you and me. So if you're voting for Obama because you think he gives a great speech and the rest of the world likes him, but you've done no research on what he stands for (and turns out that really don't agree with his stand on many of the issues) then your vote has just done the entire nation a huge disservice.

I'll cast my vote and I'll be able to sleep that night knowing I've done the right thing. What will you do? Cast a vote and go on your merry way in ignorance?



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by sos37

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Perplexed
Isn't it ironic that Osama is apologizing ...
...
This Muslim has no class at all…


And you speak of Irony? No class, huh?




And yet you fail to address the gist of the post. Why was Obama apologizing to Germany on behalf of America? Doesn't that spit in the face of the soldiers who fought against the Third Reich in the second world war?



Not at all, this is like me apologizing to my friends for being an ass the last few years.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
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Again, my opposition to Obama is based on where he stands on the issues. I've even gone so far as to post them in another thread, page 2 (www.abovetopsecret.com...). But I've yet to see you do the same even though I've asked you repeatedly.



And I have told you repeatedly. I like Obama because

1. He hasn't been in washington long enough to be evil
2. He has a great way of inspiring people. We need a leader who knows how to inspire more than a roomful of babyboomers.
3. I trust him with things like FISA, etc
4. Our allies like him and will be more friendly to us
5. Our enemies see this as a change for the better in America and will hate us less
6. As the son of an immigrant he understands the story of America better than those of us who have been here for several generations.


I could go on, but as I have said. I have repeatedly told you why Obama is the best choice for President, but you just don't care to listen.

Could you tell me why McCain is better than Obama?

Thought so.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by Quazga]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by Quazga

Originally posted by TKainZero
Its like there is the spirt of Leni Riefenstahl in Obamas staff today.


A brilliant work of rhetoric, writing, setting, and a performence.


I wonder what Obamas brave new world will be like.



Wow, so you are saying that his staff is a bunch of nazis?

Thats pretty immature don't you think?


This exchange is a good example of how a lot of Obama's supporters don't seem to look very deeply into his canidacy or issues in general. It's not that the first poster was accusing the Obama campaign of being Nazis. That wouldn't make much sense. They are, however, using a heavy dose of the same sort of propaganda and image-boosting techniques that Riefenstahl applied when working for Hitler.

Everything about the Obama campaign's imagery seems like something from some dystopic dictatorship in fiction. That creepy two-tone image of his face? The ubiquitous 'O'. That presidential seal.... It's like a cult, and half the country (and, less alarmingly, most of Europe) is falling for it hook line and sinker.

Is Obama evil, or planning to be some sort of despot? Not from what I can tell. But if elected, he will attempt to introduce dangerously liberal policies that could cripple our economy, lessen America's place in the world and weaken our military in a time of war.





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