Am I seeing Energy???, page 13
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:08 AM by spitefulgod
reply to post by MystikMushroom



Do you focus you vision on them or off, I'm curious to try and recreated for myself, do cetain lighting conditions help?


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 04:33 AM by catinthebox
reply to post by onlyhurtsu



I'm not even going to bother checking up on this thread anymore, i posted what explains this, or at least it makes more sense, jsut ask and optometrist he'll tell you you're an idiot for thinking its energy.

energy doesnt re-#ing-flect light so stop saying you can see it


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 05:13 AM by spitefulgod
reply to post by catinthebox



I feel your pain, but as zorgon pointed it's a paranormal thread so I'm afraid we'll have to keep ourselves open that others believe it is something else, rightly or wrongly in your opinion.



reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 11:43 AM by Dinnj
reply to post by euclid



>.>, yeah, I was talking about someone else having taken drugs, I think it's acceptable for me to not understand certain areas of "subliminal perception", but misundertsanding that is just stupid. Ya see, what you've done is, explained something... adequately well, but the problem I'm having is, it either doesn't really mean anything, because you can't exactly implement it... It's not particularly relevant. I think I'll stop arguing, myself, because you definately won't change your mind. I think I'll leave it to the fact that, if you ask most scientists in the world if it's possible to "See" energy, they will probably laugh at you.


reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 12:35 PM by euclid
No where did I say we see energy, we see the effects of it.... knothead. Haven't you ever seen a tesla coil? Haven't you seen an arc welder? Those arcs of "energy" are the 3 dimensional reflections of a natural energetic "process" that is occuring on a different dimension and is projected into 3 dimensional space as an arc of "energy"..... It has nothing to do with "changing" my mind and everything to do with your misunderstanding of physics.

Go eat your mushrooms... you can't keep up with or comprehend the conversation.

-Euclid

Originally posted by Dinnj
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post by euclid



>.>, yeah, I was talking about someone else having taken drugs, I think it's acceptable for me to not understand certain areas of "subliminal perception", but misundertsanding that is just stupid. Ya see, what you've done is, explained something... adequately well, but the problem I'm having is, it either doesn't really mean anything, because you can't exactly implement it... It's not particularly relevant. I think I'll stop arguing, myself, because you definately won't change your mind. I think I'll leave it to the fact that, if you ask most scientists in the world if it's possible to "See" energy, they will probably laugh at you.



[edit on 23-7-2008 by euclid]



reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 04:19 PM by Dinnj
Oh, we're seeing the effects of energy are we? God, I'm so stupid for not realising that. I can't keep up with a conversation that makes bugger all sense. You're right, but it's impossible. Yes arcs of energy in a different dimension, I really don't understand that part.

Here's how I try to understand phyics - I look around the room, and cannot see energy or it's effects. Wow, hmm, now some idiots might argue that for me, I cannot perceive that, therefore it isn't real in my terms. Obviously that wouldn't be true, but I doubt you can explain to my why then, if you do ask actualy professionals, (Not that rogue scientist who yelled about people actually being aliens planted by dinosaurs,) if you can see energy or it's effects in air, they would laugh at you?

Sort of weird isn't it, that people who understand physics would laugh at that notion? You're overly pretentious, and although you hold lots of "Facts" you still haven't failed to come across as naive. A lot of what you say means absolutely nothing.

Furthermore, here is quite possibly the best thing you can ever say in an arguement. Ever. You're an idiot if you don't agree with this - When you start to insult people about things they do, or ways they act, you have already lost an arguement with them. The very fact you tell me to go eat my mushrooms when I've never touched drugs in my life, and clearly explained that fact, shows that once you've run out of random, nonsensical bull#, you really don't have all that much to say.

I tell you what you could do, you could link me to a professional having written an essay, or answering a question, or merely stating, that some people, ANY people, can see energy, or it's effects. if you can't do that, you're damn right I don't understand the physics you seem so latched onto. Good day to you, I hope you get hit by a truck and wake up.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 12:19 AM by euclid
Originally posted by Dinnj
Oh, we're seeing the effects of energy are we? God, I'm so stupid for not realising that. I can't keep up with a conversation that makes bugger all sense. You're right, but it's impossible. Yes arcs of energy in a different dimension, I really don't understand that part.


OK Knothead, here is an example that shows we, as humans, can see the effects of energy.

Knothead, understand that the cathode and anode cause the energetic process, i.e. the electrical current, to ionize the the surrounding air molecules into an ionized gas, thus we see a "process" caused by an energy (electricity) that exists in a separate dimension and the heat created by the initator that causes the metals to melt.... which of course we can see as well.... we see the effects of energetic processes as they affect air and metals....
An arc is an electric current flowing between two electrodes through an ionized column of gas. A negatively charged cathode and a positively charged anode create the intense heat of the welding arc. Negative and positive ions are bounced off of each other in the plasma column at an accelerated rate.

Source

Another example of humans being able to "SEE" the effects of energetic processes is the aurora borealis:

en.wikipedia.org...

It is caused by the interaction of invisible particles that hit the invisible air that surrounds the EARTH.....

Yes energy and all reality comes from a fundamentally lower level of existence:

I suggest reading some of the less techincal books written by David Bohm (but even those may be beyond your ken; you probably have never heard of him and probably wouldn't understand what he wrote due to your obviously limited ability to ratiocinate at a level higher than 3rd grade).... a good primer of his concepts are here though: en.wikipedia.org...

You should probably also read Sheldrake to understand a little more about how fields of invisible energy cause things to happen at the gross level of third dimensional temporal reality (you probably never heard of him either).... some basic info is here in case you lack the socio-economic position in the hierarchy of life to purchase any of his books: en.wikipedia.org...

And yes you are:

Originally posted by Dinnj
... so stupid for not realising that.


I hope you don't die.... I hope you forever remain totally ignorant and foolish; and only smart enough to realize that you are that puerile, uneducated wretch and are unable to do anything about it.

-Euclid


[edit on 24-7-2008 by euclid]


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 03:41 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by ko zi



Wow- you stopped me dead in my tracks when I read this. I had forgotten all about this from when I was little ,until now. I used to put the covers over my head when I started seeing the "static" it would really freak me out. I never thought of mentioning it, I just thougt it was due to my eyes straining because of the lack of light. Hmmmmm



reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 06:44 AM by spitefulgod
reply to post by euclid



When you talk of electrical arcs and auroras you are talking about hundreds of thousands to millions of volts with ampage of 20 upwards into the hundreds. I doubt you can use this argument when comparing it to these "Auras". Although that said everything you see is energy, if it had no energy you wouldn't be able to see it.

As an afterthought, maybe it is possible that genetic mutations have given way to the ability of people to see additional parts of the non visible spectrum although IMO these people should be killed to preserve the current Gene Pool, we can't have mutants running around willy nilly setting people on fire, creating storms and the like.
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