Many scriptures are quoted to talk about the end times, however there is one that is consistantly missed.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3

I will post it from different bibles so you can get the full scope of it.

English Standard Version Bible
"1Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need to have anything written to you. 2For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, "There is peace and security," then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape."



Amplified Bible
"1BUT AS to the suitable times and the precise seasons and dates, brethren, you have no necessity for anything being written to you.
2For you yourselves know perfectly well that the day of the [return of the] Lord will come [as unexpectedly and suddenly] as a thief in the night.
3When people are saying, All is well and secure, and, There is peace and safety, then in a moment unforeseen destruction (ruin and death) will come upon them as suddenly as labor pains come upon a woman with child; and they shall by no means escape, for there will be no escape."


The Message Bible
"I don't think, friends, that I need to deal with the question of when all this is going to happen. You know as well as I that the day of the Master's coming can't be posted on our calendars. He won't call ahead and make an appointment any more than a burglar would. About the time everybody's walking around complacently, congratulating each other—"We've sure got it made! Now we can take it easy!"—suddenly everything will fall apart. It's going to come as suddenly and inescapably as birth pangs to a pregnant woman."


What does this mean. Well to me it means things will seem to get better just before the whole political system falls apart in destruction.
"Peace and Security" from the war on Terror will at some point be declared in the future as well as other peaceful efforts that seem to be working. So some high up political leaders can declare this to the world and that is the trigger for the end to begin.

I am wondering if Obama could be the catalyst for this "Change" to "Peace & Security" proclamation, as countries seem to favour him and would want to work with him. Whereas Bush and McCain don't seem like the type that would work towards this, they are the war monger types.







[edit on 19-7-2008 by Blue_Jay33]

hmmmm, i actually have nothing to add here, just wanted to say great post...i hold these same beliefs.

peace

If the bible was a legitimate academic and historically accurate piece of literature I would praise your theory. However, the sad fact remains that the bible was written, edited and re-written by men with a personal agenda that suited a purpose pertaining to their own times. The multitude of contradictions in the bible is enough evidence to prove that it was not written or influenced by an all powerful, all knowing omnipotent entity.

Originally posted by WatchNLearn
If the bible was a legitimate academic and historically accurate piece of literature I would praise your theory. However, the sad fact remains that the bible was written, edited and re-written by men with a personal agenda that suited a purpose pertaining to their own times. The multitude of contradictions in the bible is enough evidence to prove that it was not written or influenced by an all powerful, all knowing omnipotent entity.

is it just me, or is there always a gratuitous bible bashing post in like every thread?

Yes, Miriam!
Thank you for your patience and fortitude in posting when stupid happens!

Yes, but then the question arises are we now in the time of the false peace or is the truest essance of the "false peace" yet to be realized?

Some people would say the world is at peace at this time.

I've made a point before that there can not be World Wars 1, 2, and 3. For when a world goes to war every break between "world wars" is only a false peace time until the world is at war again. There is only ONE world war. It is the time at which the kingdoms of mankind can start wadging war on eachother, and then only after this is removed or resolved is the time of the world waring over.

So, are we in the end times because we're in the false peace now or is that time yet to come?

Originally posted by Clearskies
Yes, Miriam!
Thank you for your patience and fortitude in posting when stupid happens!

anything to help

Giving you the heads up. The wise agree with the reveal here:

-1 Thessalonians -5 (antonym and anagram antonym and 'sound like' translation)

-1Tub of the stime minus the 'land step-sons (or: daughters)', sisters, ye lack any wealth *this* body read away from you.

-2Against your bodies guess (or: knew) perfectly *this* the night of the Lord so depart-th (or: take-th) 'as' a robber out (or: by) the day.

-3Against where they 'I will command' hear, Disturbance minus safety; now gradual creation depart-th down in them, 'as' 'joyfully easy' down in a man with step-child (or: parent); minus they 'I will command' still escape.

Stime-
the smallest bit; a drop, taste, or glimpse.

Stime antonym translation-
the largest bit; a 'pick up', taste, or glimpse.


The Lord is here a single person amonst and shall depart where record must bare by eye-witnesses. Our Lord is us not the devil, but the Lord is a head of the us. After the depart the Lord shall return to hand down karma judgment.

Kiss creation (an image) good-bye and welcome origination (an original). Certain shall escape this existence/world where it's the image ugly and go rather to a better existence/world where it's the original beauty. That beauty you can call it what you want/prefer.

[edit on 19-7-2008 by Mabus]

i definatly see it being a global declaration.

just the question is how much of deception is it? how genuine is the feeling of peace and security?

it amazes me how many UN plans and initiatives have the actual phrase, "peace and security" in it.

Don't expect "peace and security" for a long, long time. The war on terror is designed to never end as long any Muslims remain alive.
The WOT is a continuation of the Crusades. There might be some peace after WWIII, but there will be precious few left to enjoy it.

Originally posted by AshleyD
As to what that had to do with anything you have said in this thread, I have no idea.

thank you,

im not sure what they were rplying to either.....