This will be a long post because I very mixed feelings on the validity of the claim. First, I'm pretty sure by going to the source website that this
is a repeat of old reports.
In addition, the author's primary source is Hamid Mir
. See below quote from the OP's article.
Much of his evidence centers around one Hamid Mir, a Pakistani journalist
You can find many posts on ATS quoting him. Several posts are mine. I started out believing his information, but the more I researched him, the less
faith I have on his "word", which is all we have from him.
It turns out that he was fired from his first journalism jobs for posting unverifiable/sensational stories, then he surfaced as founding editor for a
new Pak newspaper.
In in late Sept. 2001
he published an article that Dawn picked up as an "Interview" with OBL that was not an interview. He says that in
reality someone handed him a piece of paper that was from OBL. He published that as a factual interview, and CNN, BBC, etc. picked up the story as an
Thus began his fame, and to this day ATS members still post this non-interview as a solid reference to OBL claiming he didn't do 9/11. Even though
the paper he claims he was given has never surfaced. All we have is his word on it. No verifiable material.
Hamid Mir — the last journalist to interview Osama bin Laden
About three hours after the attack on September 11 that same messenger visited my office. At the time I was very scared. I asked him what was
going on, and he gave me a document in Arabic from Osama. It said he supported the attack but had no hand in it. Next day I published that in the
paper. The story spread all over the world, and everyone began to ask how I knew the statement was from bin Laden.
Then the Pakistan government began to put pressure on me. They were telling me to say straight away that it wasn't an authentic statement. Otherwise,
they said, the Americans would confront me. I replied that I didn't see any problem, and that I was simply a journalist who had published a statement
I'd received. After that I had to give interviews to many CNN and BBC programs.
The very next month (November 7-9th, 2001), during all this global attention he was getting, Hamid claims to have traveled to and personally
interviewed OBL in Afghanistan
He came back and published the "notes" from the interview in a new article that is now used as "solid evidence" that OBL has nukes, even though
there is no hard evidence the interview took place, nor what was actually said if it did happen. Again CNN and the rest of the news sent the article
across the globe.
Hamid's "proof" that the interview took place is:
- A picture of him and OBL sitting on a bed together. (Photoshop?)
- Its reported he let some reporters look at the film negative of the picture. (Proof please)
- Its reported his passport is stamped that he was in Afghanistan at that time. (Proof Please)
- Its reported that he recorded some of the interview on audio.
I've not seen any of the reports question the material or the source. Neither did I see any of them attempt to validate the "interview". I'm not
aware of any audio analysis of the tape. No image analysis of the pic, and no analysis of the film negative.
We only Hamid's word that any of this took place. Until he agree's to release the material for analysis thats all there is. His word.
The interviews that he has given to news agencies after this timeline include reiterations of his story that OBL has nukes. He even specifies that he
tracked 3 suitcase nukes to Europe, where he lost their trail in Italy. He provides no evidence for this.
Since that time his fame has allowed him to interview many high profile diplomats, etc. and become an editor for GEO TV. In the last couple of years
he has used his position like a pulpit to attack Pak President Mushi. As a result it stirred up so many protests that GEO TV was taken down by the Pak
It came back to life a few days later on a U.S. ISP. Then it moved to Dubai where Hamid continues to attack Mushi enough that it is still under
strong pressure from both Dubai and Pak to shutdown his editorial or have the whole site shutdown.
That being said, I've not seen evidence disproving his reports either, but for this important of a topic, I would prefer much stronger evidence than
is provided by "the source".
On the other hand I also consider that there are reports from other sources, many of which Hellmutt and other ATS members have documented about
warheads and suitcase nukes. Quite a few reports appear well before Hamid Mir's "interviews".
A handy reference to early reports are listed on page 71 of a Thesis from the Naval Postgraduate School in California.
This same table of references also appears on the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation
One example it lists is an obscure report from Dec. 2000 that 20 nukes were intercepted in route to OBL from Europe. Unfortunatly, I have not been
able to find that article, although it seems that the
and others picked it up.
Kazakhstan Time-Line 1989- 2000
2000 December 24. Reports of sale of nuclear warheads.
Arab Security Sources Speak of a New Scenario for Afghanistan: Secret Roaming Networks that Exchange Nuclear Weapons for Drugs," Al-Sharq al-Awsat,
24 December 2000. The intelligence agency of an unnamed European country reportedly intercepts a shipment of approximately twenty nuclear
warheads--originating from Kazakhstan, Russia, Turkmenistan, and the Ukraine--intended for Bin Ladin and the Taliban regime of Afghanistan.
So the OBL nuke reports are not without precedent, and there is some evidence, although none that have hard evidence as far as I can tell. Most of it
seems to be rumor, and anonymous sources.
However, there are some court testimony from captured combatants that seems to back up a few of the reports.
If you've read this far you can see why my feelings are mixed.
[edit on 7/18/08 by makeitso]