Grand Canyon's Tunnel to The Underworld, page 1
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Topic started on 9-3-2004 @ 09:48 PM by Shoktek
A couple summers ago I was reading an article in "outside" magazine about hiking into the grand canyon, and about visiting the "sipapu". This is basically a hole that can be found in the grand canyon by certain people (most of whom are afraid to go there), that supposedly leads to the underworld...a legend of Indians. Not all believe that this "sipapu" or place of emergence is in the grand canyon, but many do, and many also claim to have seen it and know how to get there.

One explanation comes from a Hopi story about the "sipapu' - a gateway through which the souls of people come out of the underworld and eventually return to it. The legend goes that the souls of all humans were shut up in the Earth until the animals, learning of the imprisonment, began digging. First Coyote and finally a badger dug a cavelike hole deep enough to release the souls. When the Earth is done with them, the souls must return through the archlike gateway, leading to speculation that natural bridges may represent to American Indians the doorway between life and death.

In the article it told of many misfortunes that happened on their quest to see the sipapu, and they concluded that they were cursed because of it, so turned around. I think it would be interesting to go see this place...but if there really were an entrance to the "underworld" in the grand canyon, would you go see it? And do you think such a place could exist?

[Edited on 9-3-2004 by Shoktek]


reply posted on 9-3-2004 @ 10:15 PM by NotTooHappy
I heard alot about this when I was working at the Grand Canyon. I never bothered to search for it though. There is also a story about there being egyptian like ruins in a cave there too.

excerpt from Archeological Coverups by David Hatcher Childress

Perhaps the most amazing suppression of all is the excavation of an Egyptian tomb by the Smithsonian itself in Arizona. A lengthy front page story of the PHOENIX GAZETTE on 5 April 1909 (follows this article), gave a highly detailed report of the discovery and excavation of a rock-cut vault by an expedition led by a Professor S.A. Jordan of the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian, however, claims to have absolutely no knowledge of the discovery or its discoverers.

The World Explorers Club decided to check on this story by calling the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C., though we felt there was little chance of getting any real information. After speaking briefly to an operator, we were transferred to a Smithsonian staff archaeologist, and a woman's voice came on the phone and identified herself.

I told her that I was investigating a story from a 1909 Phoenix newspaper article about the Smithsonian Institution's having excavated rock-cut vaults in the Grand Canyon where Egyptian artefacts had been discovered, and whether the Smithsonian Institution could give me any more information on the subject.

"Well, the first thing I can tell you, before we go any further," she said, "is that no Egyptian artefacts of any kind have ever been found in North or South America. Therefore, I can tell you that the Smithsonian Institute has never been involved in any such excavations." She was quite helpful and polite but, in the end, knew nothing. Neither she nor anyone else with whom I spoke could find any record of the discovery or either G.E. Kinkaid and Professor S.A. Jordan. While it cannot be discounted that the entire story is an elaborate newspaper hoax, the fact that it was on the front page, named the prestigious Smithsonian Institution, and gave a highly detailed story that went on for several pages, lends a great deal to its credibility. It is hard to believe such a story could have come out of thin air. Is the Smithsonian Institution covering up an archaeological discovery of immense importance? If this story is true it would radically change the current view that there was no transoceanic contact in pre-Columbian times, and that all American Indians, on both continents, are descended from Ice Age explorers who came across the Bering Strait.


Here's the rest

I don't know if this stuff is true. If it is, it would be quite a find.


reply posted on 9-3-2004 @ 10:20 PM by Shoktek
I found a little bit more on lycos...

This is an actual photo of the "original" sipapu in the grand canyon, according to the website (MSU.edu):



"The Hopi believe this is the original sipapu, the hole through which the race was born. For the Hopi, it is the holiest spot on earth. According to Hopi legend, the first people were created in a dark cave far below the surface of the earth. They climbed up through two more caves along with the coyote, locust, spider, and other creatures until they reached the earth's surface. This is the Fourth World, the world we all live in today."

It seems that the Hopi also dig their own "sipapus" in their villages for ceremonial type purposes...such as this one:



Another photo of grand canyon sipapu:



Site with more Hopi Folklore, and Second Picture Source

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