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Originally posted by Christian Voice

I'm not the paranoid one shoveling bs. I don't see any holes in the 9/11 explanaitions and I don't see where we are in the wrong by going into Iraq to help them out. America hasn't forced anyone to sign up and go over to fight. These men and women signed up and went willingly. Don't disgrace them by saying they are there for nothing or for lies.

i did not say they were there for nothing. They are there on lies...i can say that, because its the truth. While you insult them with More bs. More mainstream dribble. More patrotic jingoism. Keep shovelling.
This is what the Iraq war was for....2005 version.

By Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank
Research fellows at the Center on Law and Security at the NYU School of Law. Bergen is also a senior fellow at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C.

"If we were not fighting and destroying this enemy in Iraq, they would not be idle. They would be plotting and killing Americans across the world and within our own borders. By fighting these terrorists in Iraq, Americans in uniform are defeating a direct threat to the American people." So said President Bush on November 30, 2005, refining his earlier call to "bring them on." Jihadist terrorists, the administration’s argument went, would be drawn to Iraq like moths to a flame, and would perish there rather than wreak havoc elsewhere in the world.

and this is what has happened.

The administration’s own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated within the government in April 2006 and partially declassified in October, states that "the Iraq War has become the ‘cause celebre’ for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives."

www.motherjones.com...

Further more...you say this

I don't see where we are in the wrong by going into Iraq to help them out. America hasn't forced anyone to sign up and go over to fight. These men and women signed up and went willingly. Don't disgrace them by saying they are there for nothing or for lies.

and the reality is that this is happening...

In October 2005, the Administration pushed the Iraqis to pass a constitution that created an Islamic government. In the ensuing months, Administration policies have continued to promote an atmosphere that enshrines Islamic fundamentalism as the leading voice in Iraq's new Islamic government. Yet the American-backed government has failed to take control of the country, and in fact a religious (sectarian) civil war has erupted, with the violence growing worse with each passing month and, now, the threat of genocide. One report indicates that 650,000 "excess Iraqi deaths" since the American invasion. In the face of the violence, over half of Iraq's Christians have fled the country, while it is estimated that all Christians will eventually be killed or leave Iraq.

As the utter failure of the Bush Administration's invasion of Iraq grows worse with each passing day, and Bush continues to deny the reality of the sectarian-driven Civil War he has created, all Americans should be outraged that the lives of our soldiers have been sacrificed to promote Islamic theocracy over democracy. (Read related topic: "Introduction to Fundamentalism.")

September 15, 2007: "Religious freedom has sharply deteriorated in Iraq over the past year because of the insurgency and violence targeting people of specific faiths, despite the U.S. military buildup intended to improve security, a State Department report said Friday ....

"Many individuals from various religious groups were targeted because of their religious identity or their secular leanings," the report said.

yep...4000 lives to help Iraq. I know this is of topic, but give the level of ignorance displayed by Christian Voice, i felt it necessary to offer an alternative view.www.brucegourley.com...
This is a link you should like. I chose it to suit your christian voice. BTW, if you can't see the truth in the Iraq issue, there is no point in showing you the hole in 9-11. If your Govt. has behaved like this(iraq) how can we hold them as being absolutely honest about 9-11.

As for alien disclosure through tv and movies, rubbish. So many people on here so unhappy with their lives that they welcome any and everything paranormal to jolt them away from their boring shady lives if only for a moment. I think more attention needs to be paid on our lives here today and how to fix things, not daydreaming about aliens.

I agree with you in the first, as i have stated in my posts. Many people are unhappy, that is why they look for answers, they are unhappy with their goverments, their governments explanations and agendas, their medias constant b.s. and spin, other people derailing their search for truth as being insignificant because they are simply unhappy. But it is that they are unhappy with the current status quo. Alot of people are unhappy here at ATS. I think that is great. So instaed of dismissing the search for truth and meaning as simple unhappiness you should be brave enough to just state that you are happy that you are at war in Iraq, that you are satisfied with the official report on 9-11. That you are happy to accept the MSM at face value.