Originally posted by mikesingh

Originally posted by BlackProjects
I still am motivated that this could by secret US military or even alien.
BP

Yer right! It could be part of the secret space program.

Hi all. If it is military, and that has crossed my mind many times, then we have to ask ourselves what facility in that area would be equipped to mangage such secrets. The only facility that I know of would be Grissom Air Reserve Base in Peru. But if I was the military testing any kind of secrets, this would be the last place I would do it. Especially in plain view of populated cities such as Peru, Kokomo, or Logansort.


Rush


Edit to add: Thanks to MikeS for posting those pics for comparison.

[edit on 5-5-2008 by hsur2112]

I agree w MikeS it could be a secret space program. I don't think it is run out of Grissom although they may have some role in it. IF it is some sort of secret space program they are at times doing things pretty low in the atmosphere at least according to some of the reports(especially a couple on Indiana Mufon). There could be multiple things going on here. It remains a mystery.

Sorry folks, the "secret" space program does not (I mean would not) depend on conventional style rockets lifting off from a tower to achieve orbit for obvious reasons. Pointing out potential places for an old-fashioned style manned launch is ignorant in the extreme.

Not everything that achieves orbit has to lift of in a conventional manner, you know.

YEah as can see nothing being seen/photographed appears to be conventional ( ie rocket launch and such).

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Sorry folks, the "secret" space program does not (I mean would not) depend on conventional style rockets lifting off from a tower to achieve orbit for obvious reasons. Pointing out potential places for an old-fashioned style manned launch is ignorant in the extreme.

Not everything that achieves orbit has to lift of in a conventional manner, you know.

Welcome ITF! Been a long time! Felt bored to death without a sparring partner!

OK, so who said that the "secret" space program uses conventional style rockets lifting off from a tower? I don't remember saying that anywhere! What has been indicated are probable areas from where military craft with 'other' forms of propulsion can operate from. They have a convenient smoke screen of conventional rockets and missiles operating from there.

But then its also possible that secret military space shuttles are launched from these areas using conventional methods.

Needless to say, this is all conjecture until proved!

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
the "secret" space program does not (I mean would not) depend on conventional style rockets

Ummm care to elaborate on this?

Originally posted by BlackProjects

about all that is left is swamp gas-if nobody has tried that yet.

I think they out used 'swamp gas' years ago... no one is buying that one anymore... and weather ballons are not so good anymore because they aren't used as often these days... so they need others like military flares...

In all honesty I have not followed the UFO topics much lately because of he sheer volume of hoaxes these days and the ease at creating images and videos...

Personally a good eyewitness report in my books is still better than any Youtube video...

I would love to discuss your better cases and maybe put them on Pegasus... and the one Internos just posted sure looks worthy of follow up...

My UFO section is sorely out of date, but Russ Hamerly of Boeing has been sending me some interesting cases as well so I guess its time to work a little on updating that section

Of course if anyone has any cool submissions and can stick them in simple html... that would help

Wow, this thread really took off (sorry I haven't been on in awhile, I was moving to New York from Oregon). I am glad to see that so many people are investigating this and actually getting results. April MUFON maps should be posting soon can't wait to see what they look like.

-Kdial1

kdial1,
Yes the maps will be interesting. I was thinking today that it would be interesting to go back on a couple of the sites and research the dates of this phenomenon over the past few years. INDIANA MUFON is certainly one to do that. I remember the couple years I lived in that area that it seemed like April/Mar were top monthes but I think other monthes also had some sitings.

It seems maybe the phenomenon has tapered off. COuld also be the weather.

BP

Originally posted by BlackProjects

It seems maybe the phenomenon has tapered off. COuld also be the weather.

BP

Ya it might of for Indiana, but if you look at Feb. Texas was huge for sightings (Stephenville) then for March it was Indiana. Now for the month of April it would be interesting to see if they started popping up in other states, grouped like they were for Indiana and Texas. We shall see....

Kdial1

Hi all. Just playing catch up. I've sent a second email to Jerry @ IndianaMufon requesting information on their spring meeting because I believe that the northern flap was discussed. I'm just curious what the content of their discussion was. The meeting page on the site only goes back to 2006. I haven't heard back yet, if I do and if there is anything of interest, I'll be sure to post.

Deadcats, thanks for taking the time to post that video.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by BlackProjects

about all that is left is swamp gas-if nobody has tried that yet.

I think they out used 'swamp gas' years ago... no one is buying that one anymore...

They thought it best since Indiana doesn't have any swamps.....




Rush

I have heard from a couple sources in the area that Discovery and/or History Channel- UFO Hunters are in Kokomo area interviewing some of witness'(including some that posted right here on this ATS thread). I don't know any other details. However as from my previous post sitings are continuing. Maybe they actually will catch something..