The Amazing Dorothy Izatt, page 5
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 07:32 PM by redwoodjedi
Originally posted by it_could_be
Well since redwoodjedi started up this thread, maybe he should be the one who should tell us what's in this video that's not been mentioned before as I assume he's already seen it.


Nope. Haven't seen it yet. I was inspired to start this thread based on previous material of Dorothy's released on Unsolved Mysteries in the '90's and some other material on the internet.

BTW I.C.B. Here's that link to my EVP's you were looking for. Some of them are good. Some of them aren't so good. Some of them are in my house! Yikes!

As for the Capturing the Light video, I should have it in my hot little hands in about a week at which point I will absorb it with great attention and inquisitiveness. After that, I will post a detailed review and summary of said DVD.

Cheers,
Erik


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 07:41 PM by easynow
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glad you like those pics ,

here is another i like...







really cool photos me thinks ,










here is a link to the coast to coast web page that has some of the photos on it

you need to go to this link and click on the picture to see it bigger...trust me its worth it


www.coasttocoastam.com...
COAST TO COAST AM WITH GEORGE NOORY









[edit on 24-3-2008 by easynow]


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 07:54 PM by redwoodjedi
Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by redwoodjedi


glad you like those pics ,

here is another i like...


Again, these are simply stunning. The last two I have seen before. However, I never tire of looking at them. When one realizes that they are authentic and valid you actually take in what you are seeing, it boggles the mind. Wow!

Cheers,

Erik



reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 11:16 PM by crowpruitt
reply to post by redwoodjedi

I thought the same Erik.
Typical troll ,Never has anything good to add to the discussion.

Pay them no mind,there are plenty of us here who are actually interested in this incredible topic.


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 11:35 PM by redwoodjedi
Originally posted by crowpruitt
reply to post by redwoodjedi

I thought the same Erik.
Typical troll ,Never has anything good to add to the discussion.

Pay them no mind,there are plenty of us here who are actually interested in this incredible topic.


Thanks C.P. Deep Bows for the recognition, sir. Deep Bows. And thanks again for all of the quality info you've posted thus far.

Cheers,

Erik


reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 11:51 PM by jritzmann
Originally posted by redwoodjedi

From JRitzmann -Oh give it away for free? So Dorothy could have someone put it all up on youtube right? Ok...so...what...so that we can bitch that it isn't good enough quality for analysis? Then she's obligated to provide raw footage right? For free too...huh? To how many people? Thousands? Where does that end?

Thanks Jeff for clarifying that for me. again, I'm new here and I don't think I could have done it as...well...eloquently as you. If I'd said as much I would have probably been written off as a flame right away. Not at all what I am trying to do here. I've dealt with one or two "hostiles" on this thread already. I would just really like to keep things civilly on-topic.

I always welcome a skeptical and debunking viewpoint, everybody. Just bring your valid info and leave your hostility and anger at the playground.


Trust me Erik-that wasn't directed at you in any way. After these many years in this field I have as much zero tolerance for those spewing out uninformed accusations as I do the frauds and charlatans.

I'm getting ready to send out some additional information to Ms. Dorothy tonight, so perhaps I'll hear from her in the near future.

In as far as my own interest, the thing that piqued me the most about her story was the aspect of positive and negative experiences. She'd said that when her mindset was innocent and curious, she had somewhat positive experiences. When she was told by a parishioner at the local church that what she was filming was "of the devil", she began to doubt the sincerity of the experience, or suspected she could have been tricked in some way...by something inherently evil.

When she became suspicious, her experiences changed to what I gather were fearful, and negative. This rings a serious chord for me, and my own experiences, as well as specific instances she mentions.

The idea of mindset and perception of the beings' intent or "flavor" of the experience is one I've looked at closely for a long time. Back 10 years ago when I mentioned this, people looked at me sideways. These days I wonder if my own "toxic" experiences aren't more ascribable to me and my own fear, then the true nature of the experience...if there is a "true" nature to be had.

So, this case is one of a very few that have made me question myself and how I might actually change the experience, and also has made me wonder if I shouldn't try some sort of effort at re-connecting with it. (if thats even possible...and judging from the activity of late, it is.)

I don't mind saying this engima nearly ruined my life, so the idea of getting involved with it again isn't an easy choice. But if I've been wrong about it, and my outlook on it, I'd like to know...and if I hold the key to changing my perception of it, and how it manifests...well we'll see.

Thats why I wrote Ms. Dorothy. Not to act in an investigative capacity, although if it comes up I'd love to examine her footage myself. It's more personal then that...there's just something about this whole scenario that rings very familiar to me...and I gotta find out why.

~J

[edit on 25-3-2008 by jritzmann]


reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 01:51 AM by Moegli
Originally posted by jritzmann
reply to post by Moegli


It's not only to transfer footage, but to document Dorothy's words about each piece if possible. No, it isn't cheap and easy.

Believe me, I'm as suspect about "selling" the UFO enigma as the next guy, however the filmmaker is...a *filmmaker*, and selling their work is what they do. I doubt anyone would consider any of our professions a crime because we work for money. Nobody knocks Paul Kimball for selling his films, especially not his UFO ones.

I'd feel different if this were a ploy to garner more of our money...but it's a DVD, with no further expense implied. Nobody wants a monthly fee or a percentage of your income. I've spoken to the filmmaker at length, and he's a very nice fellow, genuinely perplexed by what he found in the case or Ms. Izatt. I don't get any notion of anything underhanded or suspect.

You're either interested in the case or you aren't.

If you're not, then move along and quit griping because a filmmaker is trying to make a film and sell it.

Oh give it away for free? So Dorothy could have someone put it all up on youtube right? Ok...so...what...so that we can bitch that it isn't good enough quality for analysis? Then she's obligated to provide raw footage right? For free too...huh? To how many people? Thousands? Where does that end?

Please, wake up and get with reality. You're talking about an elderly woman presumably on a fixed income. The filmmaker traveled a crew (twice I believe), shot the film over days, edited and produced, soundtrack, sound production...any of this sound free to you? It is however the best way to reach a lot of people with good quality clips. But it aint free by any stretch.

Again, and it cannot be stressed enough: The filmmaker and any investigators on the case, whatever their own outlooks on the case are, are NOT the case itself. Funny that everyone seems fixated on that rather then the data presented so far.

But, what I really find amusing is people thinking a little old lady is trying to get rich now, at 80+ off UFO films. Now *that* is funny.



I can really understand your frustration, but I hope it was not directed at me. My post replying to JRCrowley was based purely on my thoughts and has no ill intent associated with it. Whether you misunderstood my post or otherwise, I was only sharing my immediate thought towards JRCrowley's suspicion of the film. I have grown a lot of respect for Dorothy Izatt since I've first heard of her, there simply is NO way of further determining any fraudulent acts committed by her or the film producers.
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