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Originally posted by Spaxz
All "we" truthers want is the holes filled in, and if you say there are no holes or ask me to show proof of these holes, I ask other ATS members to discontinue posting replies to this thread as it will only create anger and distane for each other in our replies. To each our own.
Originally posted by jfj123
Building fires cause structural steel to weaken all the time, sometimes leading to collapse. Also keep in mind that it's not JUST a fire that caused the WTC's to collapse but also planes hitting the 2 buildings.
The weight/mass would overcome most of the resistance. The time difference for that type of weight would not be perceptable. Most people simply don't understand the weight, mass, etc.. involved in a collapse like that.
Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.
Originally posted by Disclosed
But when you limit one side to what it can/cannot say....it is no longer a debate.
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
Oh, you mean like the people that believe the official story can ask for evidence but refuse to post evidence when asked, saying things like they do not need to post evidence its up to people who disagree to post evidence?
Originally posted by jfj123
Endgame....watch it. You will be given a partial list of the "Elites," and how they do what they do. Search NWO quotes on ATS, and you'll learn more about who the "Elites" are...
So a show called Endgame describes a supposed group of people. Is there real evidence of this or is it just more supposition?
Originally posted by WraothAscendant
But then again Aircraft Maint. Techs are by proxy high velocity impact physicists too.
And it is extremely telling that what some "truthers" let pass as evidence is shoddy at best.
Originally posted by Disclosed
A person says they agree with the official reports...I would think the original reports would be their evidence.