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Originally posted by AshleyD
Eek! No! :p See: HERE.
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isaiah 14:12
H1966:
From H1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning star.
H1984
hâlal
A primitive root; to be clear (originally of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence to make a show; to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causatively to celebrate; also to stultify: - (make) boast (self), celebrate, commend, (deal, make), fool (-ish, -ly), glory, give [light], be (make, feign self) mad (against), give in marriage, [sing, be worthy of] praise, rage, renowned, shine.
G3345
metaschēmatizō
From G3326 and a derivative of G4976;
to transfigure or disguise; figuratively to apply (by accommodation): - transfer, transform (self).
And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
1 Corinthians 4:6
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Philippians 3:21
Originally posted by pikypiky
Okay, I’m not particularly well versed in the ‘Bible’ but I’d like to add my insight here, if I may, please. Say you’re ‘God’, a good parent who has lots of kids, ‘angels’. Of course there would be some ‘black sheep’ or rotten eggs in the bunch. So hypothetically, no matter how ‘naughty’ one of the eggs has become there is always an open door policy, yes, for those who have been kicked out for not following the ‘rules of the house’ while living under the same roof of the parental unit(s). I am a firm believer in second chances, by the way.
Originally posted by AshleyD
Venus. That was the Hebrew word for Venus (the morning star / light bearer).
I believe Venus and Jupiter or Saturn (I forget which one out of the two) are the only two planets mentioned specifically in the Bible.
Originally posted by queenannie38
No. Heylel is NOT the name for the planet Venus in Hebrew.
It is a proper name of a person. Isaiah was specifically referring to Nebuchadnezzar when he wrote that.
Originally posted by TheDuckster
What puzzles me is the Book of Job.
I see that you are able to do every thing, and to give effect to all your designs.
Who is this who makes dark the purpose of God by words without knowledge?
For I have been talking without knowledge about wonders not to be searched out.
Give ear to me, and I will say what is in my mind; I will put questions to you, and you will give me the answers.
Word of you had come to my ears, but now my eye has seen you.
For this cause I give witness that what I said is false, and in sorrow I take my seat in the dust.
I am very angry with you and your two friends, because you have not said what is right about me, as my servant Job has.
And the Lord made up to Job for all his losses, after he had made prayer for his friends: and all Job had before was increased by the Lord twice as much.
And the Lord's blessing was greater on the end of Job's life than on its start:
Originally posted by interestedalways
Satan = Saturn
Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth laborers into his harvest.
Matthew 9:38
Lucifer= Torchbearer, Venus, FEMALE
Originally posted by TheDuckster
This has been plaguing me forever.
According to the Bible, there was a 'war in heaven', to which one of God's Angel - Michael, cast out Satan and 1/3 of the other rebellious angels.
What puzzles me is the Book of Job.
NIV Version
Job's First Test
6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the .....................................
I don't feel like finding the external quotes right now, but bare with me for a moment here..
The reason why he asked where he came from is because (if you read the the older gnostic scriptures) Satan was not created by GOD, he was created by GOD's counter-part.. she created him in ignorance and without The Prime Fathers (GOD) permission... and she was ashamed and cast him into .... okay dammit fine I'll get some external quotes..
"And when she saw (the consequences of) her desire, it changed into a form of a lion-faced serpent. And its eyes were like lightning fires which flash. She cast it away from her, outside that place, that no one of the immortal ones might see it, for she had created it in ignorance. And she surrounded it with a luminous cloud, and she placed a throne in the middle of the cloud that no one might see it except the holy Spirit who is called the mother of the living. And she called his name Yaltabaoth.
and yet another quote to explain a bit of the TO and FRO..
And I said, "Lord, what does it mean that she moved to and fro?" But he smiled and said, "Do not think it is, as Moses said, 'above the waters.' No, but when she had seen the wickedness which had happened, and the theft which her son had committed, she repented. And she was overcome by forgetfulness in the darkness of ignorance and she began to be ashamed. And she did not dare to return, but she was moving about. And the moving is the going to and fro.
Now you have to keep in mind that the bible has been written by people who have been hiding certain truths for their own reasons of control etc.. and as many people notice in the bible GOD seems to have split personalities but that is because instead of being specific with names they just lumped different people into two categories, GOD/SATAN, ... and names have been changed etc.. only where it was 'necessary' to cut down on explaining a lot. Also try to keep in mind the hatred MEN have had for women, and how they've been portrayed in the past.
"And when the mother recognized that the garment of darkness was imperfect, then she knew that her consort had not agreed with her. She repented with much weeping. And the whole pleroma heard the prayer of her repentance, and they praised on her behalf the invisible, virginal Spirit. And he consented; and when the invisible Spirit had consented, the holy Spirit poured over her from their whole pleroma. For it was not her consort who came to her, but he came to her through the pleroma in order that he might correct her deficiency. And she was taken up not to her own aeon but above her son, that she might be in the ninth until she has corrected her deficiency.
Source:www.gnosis.org...
The dead sea scrolls and the gnostic scriptures are a very important part of the bible, that happen to now be a part of the bible.
But the bible happens to be a collaboration of most of these texts.
Queenannie38
Christ Jesus = Lucifer