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posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 07:21 PM
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Ok cool Ash. Its been great guys I'm going home. Have a good nite!!




posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by XcLuciFer
Ok cool Ash. Its been great guys I'm going home. Have a good nite!!


You too, Hon! I better get some more work done, too. I can't believe we stayed on as long as we did!



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:20 PM
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If you swapped "Reptilians" with "Satan" and "Venusians" with "Jesus Christ" in the OP, this entire post would have been thrown into the Skunk Works faster than you could say
Valiant Thor...


Just a thought...



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 10:14 PM
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Christ Jesus didn't Quote anything.... Keep in mind the gospels are each written by several different authors.

People will believe any fairytale they are told, and completely miss the message of the story at the same time.

I'ts as if someone was being told one of Aesops fables and the only reaction the author receives is "Oh mY GOD!!! There are Talking Lions???????"

[edit on 3-1-2008 by Quazga]



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 03:08 AM
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I haven't read all the posts. Of that I am guilty. But from reading the OP's post, I can see God as good and Satan as evil, and yet, Satan as good and God as evil. Interesting.



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 03:22 AM
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The great ages of the zodiac basicly equal 2150 per 30 degrees. These can be looked at as months. However just like our calander is understood in months, ages, there are also 4 quardrans (summer, fall, winter, spring), and these are the seasons.

Well this "new age" also is in association with the new season. I could get fancy and sudgest it is "spring" or "summer" but the great seasons really don't compute with our understandings of "seasonal change".



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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I agree that world chaning events are about to take place soon.
I am a Jehovahs Witness and I personally have been interested in things such as this.
I will add my 2 cents to this conversation. The 6000 years that everyone is talking about is
coming to a close. It comes down to when eve was created. Now there have been many therories on this. But If adam was 33.5 years old when he sinned in spring Eve was created before they sinned. Using chronology from the Jehovahs Wtnesses. Would put the ending time at Spring of 2009 or 33.5 years from 1975.
Thats why Jesus lived 33.5 years on Earth for the ransom.
Now things would have to happen before spring of 2009 cause if 2009 is the first "Regnal Year" of the 1000 year reign. Something will have to happen in 2008 more likely in Springtime of this year so the Earth and Mankind can be readied for the 1000 year reign.

Now I dont expect many to understand this or believe it. Fellow JWS might but I encourage them to keep on doing what their doing "sticking close". And for others to wake up and read Gods word and form a relationship with him.

[edit on 4-1-2008 by apollos84]



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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Another New Year – But Is It Really A Beginning?

By James Donahue

Some thoughts as we plunge into the first day of the New Year 2008.

By now the revelries of launching another New Year with fireworks, dropping brightly lighted balls and champagne toasts is over and billions of people all around the world are waking up . . . some with hangovers from too much partying . . .to a reality that the sand in the great hourglass of our existence is rapidly sifting away.

Or is it?

As our planet reels under the assaults of overpopulation, industrial and chemical pollution, overheating and just old age, there is a growing awareness by most of humanity that we are nearing the end. The question is . . . the end of what?

Some say it seems inevitable that we are rushing toward the end of our existence. The stories abound, and soothsayers are aplenty who claim they are having dreams of a global apocalypse in which we all go down in flames. Many speak of the Nostrodamus prophecies, and the Mayan Calendar, the latter suggesting an exact date . . . Dec. 30, 2012, when the world as we know it grinds to an end. That is just five years away.

So how is this to come to be? Perhaps a large meteorite will come from the sky, striking the planet with such an impact that we go out under a cloud of smoke, ash and dust so thick that the planet goes into a frost and no crops can be grown, or sunlight seen, for many years. Or there may be massive volcanism. Or perhaps it will be a nuclear winter, created by our own self-destructive foolishness.

In the world of the occult, it is said that we humans are all connected in mind and spirit and that we collectively create the universe as we perceive it. If this is so, then can we not also believe that we possess the power to will our own destruction? Are we not creating our own horror by believing the mythology passed down via ancient religious belief systems? Is an unspeakable apocalyptic disaster inevitable?

It is our belief that the god within each of us has the creative power to change anything, even a built-in, religiously-oriented mental program as devious as we now are facing. If we can believe enough in our own demise just because our ancestors perceived and wrote about it in their prophecies, must we accept this as an unavoidable truth? Do we not also have the collective power to create our own magnificent future?

Indeed, the choice is ours. And as we look around us we see a world of new thinkers who are taking different spiritual pathways, no longer accepting old religious dogma to feed the intense hunger in their soul. As the veil begins to lift, we find ourselves looking ahead into this new year with a sense of cautious joy, suspecting that now, at last, enough of us will be awake and capable of changing our situation while there is still time.


Never thought I would be quoting a Luciferian, but what he says is so true.



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 03:05 PM
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Haven't we been here before?

At the turn of the 11th Century - the peasants thought that we would all die. Then as we approach year 2000 - there was more doom mongering (with a frightening updated twist - Year 2k bug).

While you quote 6,000 years since Adam And Eve, why do we have Homo Sapiens skeletons that have been dated older?

It get's very hard contributing when religion (or mythology depending on viewpoint come into play). We have only one God - so how are angels made? What are these demi god creatures? What "powers" do they have?

Interestingly enough you compare out of body experiences with alien abductions - there is a very close alignment - not sure which is right.



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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There are some other things that need to be implemented and they will be soon.

The Beast is a person and a system - Expect some sort of implantable bio-metric device (the mark of the beast), similar to Applied Digital Solutions (or maybe their product), to be mandatory some time after the world economy collapses. It will be passed off as monetary system and a way to fight terrorism/crime, replacement for passports, general identification, medical info, et cetera. oh, and remember.... if you don't accept the implant "they" will kill you.

The anti-christ - Expect this person to be from a EU or Mediterranean country and to initiate/facilitate the peace in the middle-east between Israel and it's enemies; a peace which is supposed to last for about 3.5 years.

The Rapture - Sorry, I don't believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture. It doesn't make sense.... if God were take all the believers how would those that are left behind have the opportunity to be saved. They wouldn't; is the answer. Because the Beast system will have strict controls over all aspects of life at that time, especially the free exchange of information and ideas via the internet or any electronic means, it will be nearly impossible for those who are left behind to be "saved" and convert. So all the christians who believe in a pre-tri rapture will have a very rude awakening.... and possibly falter in faith. It will be a great test of your faith when you are not raptured away.

The "next" coming of christ - It will be faked. Only those who are truly strong with God will realise that it is not the real Christ. He (the real Christ) will appear later though and then of course the big war will happen and the Rapture will take place.

God reveals Him self to those who seek Wisdom and Knowledge. Knock and the door shall be opened unto you. Ask and you shall receive.

Personally I can't wait for it happen because all of the people who don't believe will be pulled/sucked into the false anti-christ web of deceit. They will die, rightfully so, painfully. I love that idea - serves them right.

Happy days are on the way,

-Euclid

[edit on 4-1-2008 by euclid]

[edit on 4-1-2008 by euclid]



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 10:23 PM
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“For God doeth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as God..” (Gen 3:5)



The story of how the evil Satan disguised himself as a beautiful serpent that tempted Eve into disobeying God and eating of fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is the foundation of the false doctrine known as Christianity.



The story is a powerful distortion of fact, and cleverly told so as to promote the following doctrine:



--That the “archangel” Lucifer is a lying tempter that rules over the world outside the garden. This tempter now called Satan seeks to capture the souls of humans and prevent their return to the light, or Heaven, after death.



--That Lucifer caused the woman to fall into sin first and thus caused Adam and all of their descendants to be genetically perverted. Thus all of mankind is consequently “born into sin.” The only way for us to escape and achieve salvation is to submit to the will of the angels representing the great Creator God.



--That a “savior” in the form of a god-man would arrive and offer a way of escape from this terrible state. That savior is still being awaited by the Jews. The Christians believe he was Jesus Christ. Only by believing on this savior figure can we expect to return to the spiritual existence we knew before we were born to bodies on this planet.



--That the blame for this mess lies on the shoulders of the woman. For this she is forever punished by being made subservient to men. The perversion that has resulted from this ugly doctrine alone has taken many religious groups down strange and twisted pathways.



Most of this doctrine is skillfully packaged within the 24 verses that comprise the Third Chapter of the Book of Genesis.



The drama begins in Chapter Two, verses 16 and 17, when God tells “the man” that he is free to eat all of the fruit found in the garden except that from one tree, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.



Thus the line is drawn in the sand. The subtle temptation is established. What child exists that would not fall victim to a challenge like that? “You can go anywhere in the castle except for one room. Do not, under any circumstances, open this particular door. If you do it, something horrible will happen. You will surely die.”



We might resist for a while, but we all know that eventually, our curiosity will get the best of us. The mystery door would pry on our thoughts. The day would come when we would surely open the door, if only to grasp a brief glimpse of the mystery that lies on the other side.



The analogy is exactly the same in the Genesis story. How could anybody expect a thinking human to resist such a challenge? The day was sure to come when either Adam or Eve would touch, smell, carefully examine, and eventually bite of that forbidden fruit. Once Eve submitted, it did not take Adam long to follow her. They both had been thinking about it long before they acted.



The story, of course, is a concept and laden with symbolism. There never was an event like this.



The truth lies deeply embedded in occult knowledge. The word occult means secret, or hidden, and not something wicked as religious groups would prescribe. The facts and the people who understand them have been driven into hiding by the power of religious-controlled governments.



The Garden of Eden is the Planet Earth in its original state.



The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is a reference to the Tree of Life, or the positions of the ten sephiroth, or personal lights (chakras) within our bodies that form a spiritual microcosm of the universe. The image of the serpent is a direct reference to the DNA coil that sets us apart from the beasts of the Earth.



That Lucifer came to Earth at some moment in history and manipulated the DNA of a humanoid primate, thus forming man in his image, fits in perfectly with the story. Thus Lucifer becomes, at least in the story presented by the angels, an evil one that tampers with the works of the Mother Earth, or “God.”



By manipulating the DNA of the innocent humanoid animal, Lucifer gave us the ability to “see” and thus become like gods. Not only did he make us aware, and give us superiority over the animals, he gave us the power of reason, and magnificent bicameral brains that gave us the capability of mental evolution to a high state of consciousness.



Unfortunately the angels intervened by inventing religious controls, through fear, that caused most humans to take the wrong path. Instead of evolving into the magnificent creatures we were meant to be, we have become slaves of angelic powers.



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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The writers of the ancient Hebrew text that became the Tanakh, or Hebrew Bible, worshipped multiple gods and had a variety of names for them. This was common among early civilizations.



What is unique about the Tanakh is that as the writings were absorbed into the canon that eventually became the Old Testament of the Christian Bible, the various Hebrew names of god were altered so they implied reference to a single, all-powerful creator god. Yet various Hebrew names can still be found in the King James Bible if you hunt for them.



There is an argument that the original names may have been a reference to different gods, not all of them pointing to a singular or monotheistic belief system. At the time the text was written, the Hebrews were polytheistic. And contrary to popular Christian belief, a man named Moses did not write the five books of the Taroh. There is serious doubt if Moses even existed.



Hebrew scholars tell us that each name was a different way of referring to god, but they all mean the same thing. For example, they claim Elohim, the so-called creator of the world and living creatures on it simply means “The Creator.” Yet old Hebrew text belies this claim. That word, Elohim, is a reference to many gods, not just one god.



The old text primarily uses the word El to mean God. Elohim is explained as a plural form of the word Eloah, or a peculiar derivative of El. A thorough study of that single name suggests that it implies to God Almighty, or a subject of dread.



Other Hebrew names for God: El Elyon, or “The God Most High;” El Roi, “God Who Sees;” El Shaddai, “The All-Sufficient One;” Adonai, “Lord, Master;” Yahweh, “Lord;” and El Olam, “The Everlasting God.” There are numerous other derivatives of the root words El and Jehovah.



It is interesting to note that a Jewish Rabbi named Yehuda Berg recently published a book in which he declares there exist 72 names of God. That this book should be written and published after Aaron C. Donahue evoked the 72 Goetia Spirits and discovered that they each carry a tone that comprises a portion of the real name of Lucifer, the creator of the human race, is significant.



It is obvious that this angelic-inspired Jew has used his title to create a diversion, a sham, to confuse a lot of people when the time is ripe to make the real name of Lucifer known to the world.



Berg maintains that he has knowledge of 72 three-letter combinations of ancient sacred letters that become “energy fields,” or visual mantras that can be activated spiritually rather than vocally.



He says that all one need do is look at the letters and receive enormous spiritual power.



I don’t see that the Berg book has become a best seller. In fact, by the time the song of the Goetia is revealed, most people will probably have forgotten the Berg claim. It will be best for the world if it is.



That the ancient civilizations worshipped a variety of “gods” supports the story of human origins from alien intervention. As the alien race that we refer to as the Luciferians lived among us, manipulated the DNA of Earth primates, and may have gone so far as to teach us basic skills of social living, the common myth of gods from the stars was born.



That myth is found in the Greek and Egyptian stories as well as ancient Mesopotamian manuscripts. In the Americas, the stories of the Taiowa that came among the Hopi in the Southwest, and the many gods of the Aztecs, including Quetzcoatl, also point to ancient visitors from space.



Rather than look to a single god, or creator, the early humans remembered many alien visitors who came among them, guided them, and then went off into the stars.



posted on Jan, 4 2008 @ 10:43 PM
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By James Donahue



Theologians and philosophers have debated for hundreds, if not thousands of years the existence and identification of the human soul.



That there is an argument at all can perhaps be blamed on the old Hebrew text in the Book of Genesis where we read: “the Lord God made man from the dust of the earth, breathing into him the breath of life: and man became a living soul.”



New Testament writers later warned that it is possible for us to lose the soul.



The questions then are: what is a soul? Is there a difference between a soul and the human spirit? Is there anything that makes us uniquely different from the animals that share this planet? How can we lose the soul?



Because of yet another verse in Genesis, humans have assumed that there is something superior about us. This verse says God proclaimed we shall “have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.”



Because of our ability to build, plan, organize and kill for no other reason than just the thrill of the hunt, we have not only taken dominion over the other living creatures, we have literally brought many species into extinction.



We have fished the seas, ravaged the wildlife and brought the birds down out of the skies with our weapons.



But were we given the right to do this? And who dared to put these words into an ancient book that Christians and Jews regard as sacred true text? Just because they believe a so-called author named Moses was inspired by a supreme power to write these words does not make them right. There is no proof that Moses even existed. We are victims of an elaborate angelic hoax.



If we go back into the original Hebrew text in Genesis, we discover something that might shock a few thinking religious zealots . . . if they dare consider it.



During the creation story, on the fifth day, the elohim (gods) created “nephesh hayyah” or living souls. This is a reference to all living creatures, not humans.



When the Yahveh (God) created the “ha-adam,” the text says he give him “nishmath hayyim (living breaths) and ha-adam became “nephesh hayyah,” or a living soul.



Is there a difference?



Over the years, the Christian and Hebrew scribes, while translating these verses, chose to make animals mere creatures and give man superiority over them. They also changed the elohim into a monotheistic god. Thus they altered the translations to deceive us to believe that a God-breathed soul is unique, and puts a spark of our creator in each of us.



And from this slight twist of hand has been constructed the belief that some humans, who live according to God’s standards, are chosen for an eternal life in a place called Heaven, while others are condemned to an eternity in Hell. This is the angelic-inspired fear-based control machine designed to enslave the masses.



And that, in a nutshell, is a description of religion.



Now back to the soul. We still have not answered the age-old question of just what it is, or if it even exists.



Surely there is something unique about humans that animals don’t seem to possess. But what is it? We have an awareness of death, but there is no proof that animals don’t share this. We can have empathy for others, but tests with animals have shown they too can empathize. We have emotions and it is obvious, especially among pet owners, that animals share these traits as well.



We have intelligence. Yet tests with dolphins and even the mysterious octapus have proven that these lovely creatures of the sea may be far more advanced intellectually than humans. Other creatures, like the grey African parrot, also have shown remarkable intellectual skills when put to the test.



But is this all not just the spirit? Once we die and our bones turn to dust with the bones of the animals, does our spirit live on? There is no proof that it does.



So what can we claim? We have bodies that allow us to construct, and we have used them to build empires. Animals can’t physically do this. And most importantly, we have the ability to communicate and keep records. Humans collectively are perhaps the most advanced communication system that ever existed, certainly on this planet. Everything that we think, write down, or dream goes into a database referred to as a collective unconsciousness.



It is possible that through us, the living universe is made aware of itself?



If we go back to those old Hebrew words of creation, notice the part of the verse that we have been overlooking. We were all created from the dust of the earth.



Our bodies, then, sprang from the Mother Earth. This is the spiritual part of what we are. Yet the soul, which we all share, also is part of the living planet. If the Earth dies, the soul also dies.



Humans are capable of possessing a soul, but they also are capable of losing the soul, even while their bodies continue to walk around alive on the planet. They lose their connection with the soul because they fail to love and connect with the Mother Earth.



It was Lucifer, who created humans by putting his DNA in the bodies of an earth born primate.



This is what makes us unique. We are children of both Lucifer and the Mother Earth. We live in bodies designed for this planet, but have DNA given to us by an alien race. We appear to have been created as an advanced information system.



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 12:53 AM
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I came aboard late and haven't read all the posts. So tedious. But as far as I understand Monotheism isn't the belief in just one god but the worship of a single God. Of course someone might have a dictionary that proves me wrong, but I know I am right anyway.



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 08:58 AM
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We are born dead everything in this reality has been dead for eons all things are subject to death and decay.

What we think of as life is what is left of the light of discernment poured into the universe itself nothing but echos or waves of awareness.

Like a ship at sea turning all we know is in motion we are moving with it unable to escape already dead waiting to come full circle for creation to collapse in on itself.

The most any breathing person could possibly hope for would be about a thousand years of mortality because even if our bodies cells could regenerate themselves consciousness has substance and exist in a quantum paradox with one way in no way out.

Our bodies could theoretically go on being animated but we can not do work in the dimensions from which life emanates, and death can not give life or know life.

When you look up at the stars you are really looking inward not outward like it appears to the mind, and when we look inward to the quantum we are actually looking outward it is just a matter of perspective.

The reality we perceive has limits it is collapsing and we are trapped.

We are not like the creator God which exists in the omni present of the imperceptible, the broader reality that is the infinity of the living, which is to say, that which is literally life itself, which we do not have and are not constructed of and would need to be in order to escape the confines of our substance.

King Siccuth fled into our ornus and he has no escape either, the most he can offer any of us is length of days, a portion of the power and glory of the kingdoms of this world that remains of the light of life rippling through and rebounding off the ice covered walls of this cosmos.

All within is compressing towards singularity the great like of fire which will forever burn, that is the destiny of Siccuth and all the creatures he has fathered the blackness of damnation broken off from the light of life eternal death and darkness.

The tabernacle of Moloch offers no refuge, the sons of God are fully aware of the ties that bind all things and they tremble.

Christianity is the birth child of the serpent and the whore of Babylon the prodical son who is finding his way home to his fathers house even as we speak.

Remphan the god of the star is the trinitarian, it is his form of governance his power that was practiced by the descendants of Nimrod which is one portion of each, cooperate, political and religious.

Christians call for their god to save them and so it will.

This is the lord which will be loosed to cast its dominion over all the inhabitants of this world.

A functioning global state will emerge it will be in preparation for the return of Siccuth to the throne of mankind.

That is some of my take on a few of the things we have been talking about.



posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 09:48 PM
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Snooooree....Oh come ON you guys! The bible was pieced together to serve the purposes of ROME! By then emperor Constantine! So many books have been lost or just thrown away that I just cant see how anybody can take it so ludicrously literally!

Lucifer is an angel. Cast out for pride. Satan is a figment of the Vaticans creation. As a former devout Catholic I know all to well how force fed this is.

Heres a better version of this thread matter..."Politician using biblical texts as moral guide forsees major world events" Hows that?

If there is a god hes not some goody two shoes "Touched by an Angel" God. He is all powerful. Omnipotent and creator of the universe. Starting with the heavily edited New Testament God suddenly veered into political correctness.

The God of the TORA/Old Testament is a god of WRATH! Just fine with wiping out most of the planet with floods to wipe the slate clean of his creations that had turned to sin to start over....

Sigh....never mind....just keep moving ppl...



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 06:35 AM
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That's kind of what the Evangelicals think...

Their God is going to unleash its wrath on us unbelievers and make us fear it.

Of course its, that's their three headed god. is going to whisk them away first so they can watch from a safe distance and maybe eat hot dogs while we slog it out.

Most likely what is going to happen is a nuclear biological war because the religions each think they worship the "REAL" god and each one of them wants to prove to the other religions that they are right by forcing their "REAL" god to show itself.

Since the creator God does not have a religion he won't do anything to save the Christians, Muslims, or Jews so in the end all you will get is one nasty leap of death by millions of people who think their "REAL" god is going to show those unbelievers who's boss.

I do think we will be visited by something maybe a god or two from the stars that will come after the bombs and germs have narrowed down the definition of survil of the fittest.

It will be their big chance to start over they can show us how to feed ourselves again with what's left of the planet.

We will be happy to have all the help we can get because it beats going extinct.

The price for their service will once again be our installing them as rulers over us but that's not such a heavy tax.

The only real flaw with the gods is that they are incapable of empathizing with us on a human level so they tend to be a little fecal when it comes to human life and death issues.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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I go by me and I am not fooling around anymore. If you guys don't start going by your gut (forget the heart and brain) and start the change it will be to late.

This Planet will live but you will not. This Planet will be baron on March 17, 2046 unless you gather together and make change.
Now that was plain and simple and I'm assured will be ignored as a ranting of an old woman but I know..............it's all up to all of you.

As you will learn when said---- no one knows well, your wrong ""I know.""

Sometimes I just want to give up on you but innocence, pure and honest of many is what is holding this planet together choose the right path and save your future families.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:41 PM
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You asked: Haven't we been here before? The answer is no. Truly no. Over the several generations there have been small groups, religious sects, very small, who have made claims to the world ending soon. There have always been individuals. Both had very little evidence.

Now a days, people are waking up to the overwealming evidence of the actually celestual event that is the coming of the "new age" that signals the "end of the world" type events. Also the time frame matches with the larger movements of the "big clock".

So, no, there's never been a global awakening to an idea of the end times before now, and sure neverbefore could there have been, and the global awakening to the idea is part of the communications devlopment, but that my friend in and of itself is also part of the prophecy.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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the question you asked was just how powerful is the "god" of this world ?

i skimmed thru others replies but dont think i saw quite the answer i would/am giving.according to the book of job chapters 1 and 2 the adversary(satan) is only as powerfull as the Elohiym allow it to be---presently it and its rebellious angels are restrained in an invisible prison (tartaroo) 2peter2:4 which also encompasses this planet .

they are quite capable of murdering every single one of us and every other living creature on this planet---not only the earth is it capable of destroying but also is capable of wrecking the entire known physical universe if given the time---if not restrained by the Elohiym and the guardian angels led by Gabriel and Michael.daniel 10:13/20-21



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