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reply posted on 31-12-2007 @ 04:48 PM by raven bombshell
Originally posted by Karlhungis
reply to
post by TheOracle



Regarding the noises: That is usually when I know I will be able to project is when I hear them. For me, 99% of the time it sounds like .... well, in the matrix when Neo swallows the pill and gets overtaken by the mirror? The noise that it makes when the camera goes down his wind pipe, that is the noise that I hear before I can project.

Sometimes though, if I get stuck in sleep paralysis I have heard some bizarre things.
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I have always been conflicted as to whether I AP-ed or was hit with the sleep paralysis. I know that I will be extremely exhausted the next day if I have an AP/sleep paralysis event. I also sometimes hear the murmering of many voices right before the event. I thought for years that I was projecting, but two years ago I learned about the sleep paralysis, and honestly I was disappointed. I don't feel like someone is going to get me- I just feel like I am being yanked from my body and can't open my eyes or move. I have never been able to turn myself around and look at myself or anything. I immediately fight the sensation and snap back like a rubber band. What do you think? More likely to be AP or sleep paralysis?

edited for spelling

[edit on 31-12-2007 by raven bombshell]


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 01:44 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by raven bombshell



Personal opinion here, I am far from an expert...

It sounds to me like you *could* be in the early stages of AP or an OBE. But it mainly sounds like you are in Sleep Paralasys. If that is a state that you can duplicate or practice, it could be beneficial. You just need to be aware of it and expect it before you go to sleep. When it hits, try not to panic and try to make your escape...

It isn't as easy as it sounds. It can be scary with the noises that you will hear, or the things you will see. It is also difficult to juggle your awareness.. You need to be aware of the situation, but not so aware that you wake up. I have raised my "astral" arms before to try the rope technique, only to have my real arms raise. It is a weird sensation, because you still feel detached from your body. It is like you are moving someone elses arms, but are aware of it... on the outside looking in if you will. But it was so distracting that it woke me up and I was unable to get back to that state.

I have been having a hard time dreaming lately as well. I work nights and have to flip between days and nights twice a week. It kills my natural rhythms and makes it next to impossible to remember my dreams. For me, good dream recall is essential for any of this to happen. Mainly because I got started in all of this by Lucid Dreaming.

Anyways, good luck with the sleep. Start a dream journal if you begin to remember your dreams again.


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 09:21 AM by raven bombshell
reply to post by Karlhungis



Thanks for the advice. I plan to keep the journal. I used to have some really epic, Apocolyptic dreams. They were so detailed. I feel like my lack of REM sleep has contributed to my Fibromyalgia, too.


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 09:48 PM by roodyp4364
reply to post by pmexplorer



www.bwgen.com...
Its only a trial version. I haven't tried the full version but from what I used, it seems to work. The first time I used it I felt intense buzzing and vibrations through my body like I've never felt before. I stopped using it, but only because I wanna get better at the AP techniques before I dive into the good stuff.



reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 10:06 PM by pmexplorer
reply to post by roodyp4364



Cheers roody,
Looks interesting,
I will have to check it out.

has anyone else tried this?


reply posted on 2-1-2008 @ 01:32 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by pmexplorer



You can also look into the gateway experience www.new-mind.com...

Try reading a book on Robert Monroe, he seems legit to me but I am not sure if his business still is after he died. The CD's are expensive but you may be able to find them on ebay or.... other places.

As for proving weather or not it is real... well my personal opinion is, does it matter? What is real anyway? I mean, if you see something, feel something, connect emotionally to something, does it matter if it can be proven?

It all depends on what you are wanting out of it. If you want to be able to accurately read a newspaper in another room... well, I think you will most likely be sadly dissapointed. But really, if you wanted to read the paper... just buy one and read it. I would imagine it takes a lot less effort that way.

If you are in it just to experience what it is all about and to see what else is out there, then I think you will find it is worth it.


reply posted on 2-1-2008 @ 01:39 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by pmexplorer



And yes, I have tried BWGEN. I find the Schuman resonance to be really relaxing, but it hasn't really helped me AP, OBE, or Lucid Dream. At least not noticably so.

For me, what helped the most was a guided CD that is bordering on hypnotism that would talk you through a full body relaxation session. It is pretty important for me to be fully relaxed for any of this to happen.

You can find non copywrighted MP3's out there if you look hard enough that will do that. The early gateway cd's also walk you through the relaxation process.

Digital drug is another alternative that is out there. It is about an hour long and is pretty much a custom BWGEN Hemi-sync track. Again, relaxing, kind of helps me focus, but doesn't help me with anything else. I will listen to it when I read to just drown out all outside noises.

You will find a lot of magical claims out there when you look into this stuff. Most all of it is not true. I have only found that good books, practice and dedication work.


reply posted on 2-1-2008 @ 04:55 AM by raven bombshell
reply to post by Karlhungis



I see your point- why is proof necessary when you are just sharing an experience? If we understood more about it we might not even see it as a paranormal event but something more natural to humans. Maybe if you witnessed a crime during an OOBE you would need proof- now that would make good Court TV drama!

Thanks for the references.
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