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Topic started on 23-12-2007 @ 09:24 PM by Temperamental69
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Hey all, first time posting here but I've been coming and reading topics here for at least 5+ years now.
Recently, I became interested in meditation and decided to give it a shot, and I'm starting to get really into it. I've been reading about Astral
Projection and after doing a search on the forums here, I could find nothing pertaining to what my question is.. :
Does anyone here know any VALID websites that have step-by-step guides on how to do Astral Projection? (ones that actually work too, as tested by
you). I'm not expecting an exact walkthrough, although it would be fantastic.. But something that tells me how to start, or what to do from this
point would be greatly helpful.
I would definately love as much information on how to start and continue utilizing Astral Projection if possible.
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 03:06 AM by NewWorldOver
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Welcome to ATS,
To be honest, the method of meditation and focused imagery (imagining you are walking up a staircase etc.) is the most basic explained on all the
websites I've seen. Reaching trance state through relaxation and meditation, allowing the body to go to sleep while remaining conscious (done with
focused imagery) and riding the 'energy waves' that carry your spirit out of body. This is all pretty intense and feels alot more real than you
might have imagined it would; example, feeling like you're literally on a rollercoaster as opposed to lying still in bed with your eyes closed. The
sensation of motion can become very 'exciting' and wake you up from the method, very few sites have explained how to remain calm
Maybe somebody who regularly projects can advise us what methods are the best.
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 03:17 AM by Karlhungis
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www.amazon.com...=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198487549&sr=8-1
Mastering Astral Projection by Robert Bruce. 14.93 from Amazon.
Pretty straight forward book. You can read about some of his methods on astraldynamics.com.
You could also look into the gateway experience. www.thegatewayexperience.com... It is a guided set of MP3's that takes you
through the process as well, using hemi-sync technology to assist. It is an expensive package though. They also host seminars if you are into that
sort of thing.
I suggest reading up on the creator of the program though, to see if you feel it is legit or not. Robert Monroe. He has written a few books that you
may find interesting.
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 03:55 AM by TheOracle
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Hello, I will try to help you with your astral quest.
first of all you need to know that there are no universal method to project, it varies with every person. But if you know how it works then it is easy
to find something working best.
Steps:
First find a comfortable position, away from any possible disturbance. Evenings Nights are not the best times, I found out that you will get better
results during the day or early morning. At night your body is tired and you are more likely to fall asleep. Also make sure you havent eaten heavy
before, avoid milk and too much meat before you want to project.
I do my APs laying on my back, some people do it seated but t makes me want to throw up.
As you lay down, you must empty your thoughts and worries. The idea behind AP is to try and trick the mind into believing the body is dead. You do
that by switching off mentally parts of your body, starting by your feet and going up.
When you are completely relaxed, here comes the bulk of the visualization process. Personally I start by believing that i am rotating in space, when
this is successful then my body really feels like it's spinning. Then I imagine my body heavy like lead then light as a feather with more and more
intensity. There are many other different techniques, the most common is the rope you imagine grabbing and climbing up.
When it reaches its "climax" I feel my fingers and toes starting to "burn" and "itch". It's a strange sensation, it does feel like they are on
fire but it doesn't hurt at all, but at this point i know the AP is imminent. I then picture a target in my head while carrying on the heavy-light
thing (this is important in my eyes), a place or person you wish to visit very badly.
Then I feel sucked out like a vacuum. But it is not always the case, sometimes you will just start to see with your eyes closed and go from there.
Warning
Do not attempt an AP if you are not ready to see or hear ...spooky or downright scary. I want to emphasize on this because a few of my motivated
"students" quit after having some frightening encounters in the astral. The astral starts with the sense of hearing, so before you see anything you
may hear activities.
There are no risks of you not coming back to your body or being attacked by astral entities, they may follow you at times but they are harmless. The
few inconveniences are well beaten by a wonderful experience
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 04:05 AM by NewWorldOver
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Excellent introduction Oracle, that about covers it  The explanation of energy entering the body and intensely feeling that can be hard to explain
sometimes. It is a real sensation and doesn't feel whispy or imagined, so it's really like 'going for the ride' and letting go of any
apprehension/tense feelings.
You mentioned that you might hear things before becoming astral, does this include sounds like a large waterfall, or the roar of energy? I have heard
that before, accompanied with other things while under sleep paralysis or REM and one of those experiences felt 'real' and was pretty intense/scary.
I know what feels like my soul moving or god forbid, being prodded at by lil 4th dimensional goons.
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 04:06 AM by theRiverGoddess
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hello.
I must say I am surprised you say you have been around for 5 full years yet have never run across any of the valid threads containing many valid site
links....
First I will share this thread with you, but you would have to read into it to find the overwhelming amount of links posted throughout it, plus the
very many personal instructions from the OOBE members of ATS...it is a very BIG thread so it can be a tad overwhelming, but take the challenge and
don't let it scare you!
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I have learned that the experience is slightly different for everybody, as we are all different and different things work best for different
people.
If you can find a teacher or a guide that would help you allot.......the posters before me sound pretty knowledgeable......maybe Oracle can be your
teacher? But she is right about not backing out in fear.......to do this you can't be afraid of all the whooshing/pulsing noises.
Here I go just sharing some links I have on FAVS......
www.astralvoyage.com...
www.monroeinstitute.org...
www.astralsociety.com...
www.astralpulse.com...
www.worldofalternatives.com...
www.pinkstartech.com...
www.v-j-enterprises.com...
www.pinkstartech.com...
Here is a link to the ATS Astral Projection research project:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I hope this helps you out somewhat in your quest.
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 05:02 AM by TheOracle
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Thank you.
Regarding the noises I am a bit perplex myself. I, almost every time before the "exit", feel or hear a presence. It can be footsteps, breathing,
some gibberish (and they can be unrealistically LOUD) most of the time an "oppressing" feeling - someone, something right there with you or coming
to "get you" and all during the sleep paralysis. It happened with all the friends who wanted to learn around me and I don't know how common this
is with other APers.
Having read many testimonies on the subject, I came to the conclusion that as you start you are not very likely to encounter such entities but as your
mind opens to the astral they will be more present. Also some people also have spirits hanging around them, AP or not, and people may perceive them
during this state.
Having said that, they are completely harmless and it's a natural thing, we are entering their world so to speak. That's why it is important to do
this only when prepared for such possibility.
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 11:39 PM by MissInformation
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I'll have to try these steps myself sometime, it's always interested me.
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reply posted on 25-12-2007 @ 12:15 AM by AkashicWanderer
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Hello Temperamental,
For a step-by-step guide which will guide you in the practice of Astral Projection I recommend this free course:
Dream Yoga
It outlines the steps needed to successfully astral project, and how to awaken your consciousness to ensure your experiences are meaningful.
Inverencial Peace,
Akashic
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 10:36 AM by zaraza777
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Thanks Oracle for the info about how you AP. I tried using the method where yoiu imagine the rope but I only got to the tinngling and vibrating
sensation in my fingers. i;ve been trying to obe for a while now but I just can't grasp it...yet. I always tried laying down but i will try it in the
sitting position. Meabe it will work then
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 10:39 AM by Karlhungis
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Good luck with trying it sitting up. I can't imagine.... The only success that I have had is when I am lying on my back. The rope technique has
worked for me before. I just need to be so relaxed, that I couldn't possibly get to that state in a sitting position. I would imagine that people
who are well versed in meditation would be able to do it, but I really suck at meditation.
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 10:45 AM by Karlhungis
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reply to post by TheOracle
Regarding the noises: That is usually when I know I will be able to project is when I hear them. For me, 99% of the time it sounds like .... well,
in the matrix when Neo swallows the pill and gets overtaken by the mirror? The noise that it makes when the camera goes down his wind pipe, that is
the noise that I hear before I can project.
Sometimes though, if I get stuck in sleep paralysis I have heard some bizarre things. Most frightening was when I was in the house by myself and it
sounded like someone was outside my bedroom shaking the door as hard as they could, banging and shaking it. Freaked me out and pulled me out of it.
Another time I was sure that there were two beings at the foot of my bed just looking at me.... I was of course paralyzed so I couldn't look directly
at them, or hide or anything. That was very frightening as well. Exciting stuff.
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 12:54 PM by roodyp4364
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I'm jealous of you AP'ers, lol. Sounds like the experience of a lifetime. Im two weeks into training and hoping to get out eventually. I've been
trying awareness, energy flowing and storing techniques but I haven't actually tried exiting, since I'm early into training (reading Astral
Dynamics). But I'm sure my impatience will take over eventually and I will skip to the projection part, lol.
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 01:01 PM by Karlhungis
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reply to post by roodyp4364
Please try to not give in to the impatience. If I could do it all over again, I wish I would have stuck to the training portion better. I had a
taste of success and then I thought I didn't need to work on it anymore. Well, I haven't been able to AP for MONTHS now and it is very frustrating.
Good luck, but if I could offer any advice, please don't become impatient.
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 01:13 PM by roodyp4364
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Thanx for the advice. I did read that in the book. If you go straight for the gusto without practicing or conditioning your energy body you could lose
the ability to project for some time. I'll take that advice, but its so hard because, to me there's nothing bigger than an OBE. But so far I've
been uncharacteristically patient. I haven't read ahead at all. I feel like Im back in elementary, where I had to read a book to get a free pizza
hut coupon. Pizza is like a god to me, so you can understand my agony. I feel that way with AP but I know the consequences outweigh the rewards.
Hopefully in the future, I'll be the one giving out advice on how to achieve an OBE.
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 10:33 PM by cathedral_master
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May I ask you Oracle what are the cool things you have done while APing cause it seems like you are the most experienced here when it comes to these
things.
I also want to ask why the spirits of that realm cant hurt you given that you are at the same realm as them???
I really want try then master AP but I want to know what the dangers are first before I try it.
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reply posted on 28-12-2007 @ 11:08 PM by theRiverGoddess
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The only true dangers are having to face your own self doubt & fears.
If you are fearful of something, that very thing will confront you in the astral (IF you can make it in carrying those fears)......concurring your
fear is very important for this type of experience to be a 'good' experience for you, and not just a nightmare of your worst imagining.
Meditation is the best way to prepare yourself and exercise the muscles needed for this work.
Keep in mind Tibetan Monks meditate for years and years before they can project into the astral, so patience is something you must possess by the
bucketful. Being impatient will just push the experience farther away from you.
For me, the noise sounds like rushing wind. As if I am in a car doing about 80 miles per hour and sticking my head out the window..... a wind tunnel
rushing sound.
It can be just a straight on whooshing noise or it can seem to pulsate with the pumping of your blood...whoosh,whoosh,whoosh......the sounds by
themselves can be pretty freaky and scare you off......
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 06:54 PM by qd22vcc
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I believe I have Ap'd before but not quite sure...it is really a different feeling because it seems as though you are not asleep and not
awake..normally if i do attempt it, is when i don't have to work the next day because to me it is really exhausting. Any of the times I have I always
see a ball of light (lying on my back), it seems as though it is far away. One odd thing and I'm not sure if it is relevant to prove if the
experience is real or not but once i realized i was projecting one time and felt myself go out of my body, i could see myself starting to float and
went zipping back to go out the window but i hit it,couldn't go through it and then tried to fly out of the door...everything looked the same,nothing
looked odd or out of place like it does in a dream sometimes, also i could see my body when i floated. One thing I always encounter is once i feel
like i am going somewhere, i lose control and sink....but not back in my body...below it.It does scare me even though i think i know whats going
on.
Has anyone done any testing or experiments to see if they can note a real AP?
Also, I was thinking about buying a video recorder and recording myself at night to see if there are any changes when i try to AP?
Thanks!
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 10:10 PM by ReginaAdonnaAaron
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People should also probably know about the sensation of coming back to your body. It can startle you if you're not accustomed to it. I've had quite
a few "rough landings" myself.
You may experience what feels like a large intake of air via your nasal passages and it may feel cold. Like diving into a pool of cold water. It's
not really an intake of air but your celestial energy returning to your body in a big "whoosh!" More practice will serve to assist you in having
softer and smoother "landings" for lack of a better word.
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reply posted on 31-12-2007 @ 09:47 AM by qd22vcc
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Another thing? Does anyone think you can AP into an alternate reality? It seems as though I AP'd yesterday, trying to because of talking about it
yesterday and the experience was totally different than before. It did seem more like a dream afterwards but at first when I was trying to leave my
body it was very chaotic and almost like I was breaking through glass to move, the noises were very distorted sounding and then after that I was free
to move through my house where I tried to leave.Everything was the same except the kitchen? And I was fully aware and in my mind I realized this but I
also thought I was testing this out because I remember knocking some tings off the counter in my AP and thought.."I did it!"..but after the
experience I realized that it wasnt my kitchen??
Do you think I could AP into someone else's house or cause thingsto move in their place w/ realizing it? Could that possibly be a count for some
mysteries of objects moving?? Just a thought...may not be valid???
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