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Originally posted by NuclearPaul
If they waterboarded me, I'd probably admit to anything too...
Originally posted by niteboy82
So now, not only is Al Qaeda performing big nasties like 9/11, but they are also on solo missions, running around the US (and outside) popping off individual members of the CIA.
Originally posted by defcon5
...Personally, I think the best opportunity is one that we will never use, because it will tick off countries that are supposedly our allies. That solution would be to make the existing governments of those countries police their own radicals and pass the appropriate laws that disallow radical hate teachings (hate crimes). ...
[edit on 12/7/2007 by defcon5]
Originally posted by defcon5
What an uneducated point of view you have on things.
I suggest going back and learning something called history. Waterboarding is torture
Sen. Edward Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat, charged a cover-up reminiscent of the Watergate scandal that drove President Richard Nixon from office in 1974.
"The past six years, the Bush administration has run roughshod over our ideals and the rule of law," Kennedy said in a speech on the Senate floor. "Now, when the new Democratic Congress is demanding answers, the administration is feverishly covering up its tracks."
Originally posted by Harlequin
so theres `outrage` when captured US personel are paraded on TV and hung drawn and quatered etc etc
but its fine for the US to do the same
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Great! So you have no problem volunteering to let me waterboard you, right? After all, it's not really torture. No more uncomfortable than using harsh language, right?
Originally posted by SimiusDei
While limited (repeat LIMITED) forms of torture may be a means of getting someone to talk who would not otherwise, EXTREME torture can make people say things that simply ARE NOT TRUE just so they can get OUT of the torture situation.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
You don't believe the CIA has an interest in protecting their identities of their agents? It is not that revealing their identities will let al'Qaeda know who they are, but everyone will know who they are.
Originally posted by geocom
as far as torture goes I know the Geneva Convention covers this but doesn't the
Geneva Convention only apply to fighting armies of recognized countries..
If the above is the case then we are not at war with an opposing country (yet)
but an organization and I think we should do to them what they would and have done to us.
As far as not meddling in other countries affairs goes didn't we try that
before WWI and then again before WWII and we ended up with Germany on the offensive during WWI and Germany and Japan on the attack in WWII so I am not sure what history tells you when you look at this but it tells me that isolationism does not work like everyone thinks... and our economy was piss poor during these times also so don't forget that either no economy no country.