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Originally posted by kdubs
I remember some quote a guy had "any truth that can't withstand scrutiny, is no truth at all". Are they that insecure about this character that any criticism is a threat their religions existence?
Originally posted by neformore
What would happen if a Muslim guy stood in the middle of NYC, shouted "allah akbar" and set a US flag on fire?
Its kind of a rhetorical question, because I know that he would probably be surrounded by a very angry mob, some of whom would want to kill him - and please don't tell me thats the case, there are numerous posts on ATS where people say they would react violently to seeing such a thing.
Providing the police got there before he was lynched, they would arrest and incarcerate him.
So, hes come to the US, exercised his freedom of speech within what he thought were the laws of the country and suddenly he's in jail. He might get charged with a public order offence, be bailed or shipped out of the country. (He might even be charged under some terrorism law and end up in Gitmo, but thats a different story.)
This womans in the same boat. The authorities got to her before the mob did. She is incarcerated but unharmed. Chances are the Sudanese Authorities will let her go untouched, with a warning. If she has any brains she'll apologise, come home to the UK and leave it at that.
And as for those who wish to tar all Islamic's with the same brush, have a look at the comments here
Sudan teddy insult teacher: Readers' views
Most of the people quoted are Islamic. Most agree that its a stupid incident and it should never have happened. We all know that's the case (although as I said earlier, she should have known better). Some disagree with that and put their viewpoints across in a civilised manner.
Originally posted by neformore
Originally posted by dawnstar
just a dumb question.....
why is it wrong to name a teddy bear mohammed, but not people...
Without moving from your keyboard you could have found the answer, but hey, as you are lazy;
What can't be named Muhammad
Gill Lusk, the associate editor of Africa Confidential and a specialist on Sudan, says the incident will have offended many in the country. As Sudan is a place where religion is never mocked or satirised, it's "unthinkable" that a toy or pet could be given a religious name.
Originally posted by kdubs
o.k., thats it. I've had enough of people saying oh poor muslims, don't judge all of them just from a few radicals. Well its become apparent that there's more than a few radicals because I hear things like this every other week. every other week its something else where they are so offended about something that someone has to die or be injured. How is their prophet above any criticism? I remember some quote a guy had "any truth that can't withstand scrutiny, is no truth at all". Are they that insecure about this character that any criticism is a threat their religions existence? The 1 billion plus muslims in this world need to grow the # up, because I for one feel the world isn't big enough for the both of us. Imagine how #ing stupid they're going to feel when religion itself is disproved by the existence of E.T.'s. I hope they sh1t their prayer rugs
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by planetfall
Yes they do find time to work in their noble prizes awards after they attacked Lebanon last year.
Lets pray that they only do that to muslin nations every other year.
Oh, I forgot Palestine, my bad.
Originally posted by planetfall
Originally posted by neformore
What would happen if a Muslim guy stood in the middle of NYC, shouted "allah akbar" and set a US flag on fire?
Originally posted by mortalengine
Originally posted by planetfall
Originally posted by neformore
What would happen if a Muslim guy stood in the middle of NYC, shouted "allah akbar" and set a US flag on fire?
Well I guess we know what would happen, but whats really worrying is how much people care about their flags. Patriotism is not a good thing, The self-determination of the nations of the world is what causes war. Delusions of separation and such. I wouldnt care if a satanist burnt a bible in front of me, I wouldnt care if a muslim burnt my flag or any other flag for that matter. Its more worrying that people have been so brainwashed that someone burning a piece of cloth angers them enough to want to kill.
Does no-one else feel this way ?? - I feel like im taking crazy pills!
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by planetfall
No matter how well you presented it was nothing more than an overkill and the destruction of another nation that happen to be muslin, but hey we did the same to Afghanistan and Iraq so what an example. right?
But that is ok our nation also works on Nobel prizes while at war.
Acutally we work fo rpeace.
Originally posted by mortalengine
Well I guess we know what would happen, but whats really worrying is how much people care about their flags. Patriotism is not a good thing, The self-determination of the nations of the world is what causes war. Delusions of separation and such.
Originally posted by mortalengine
Does no-one else feel this way ?? - I feel like im taking crazy pills!
Originally posted by Beachcoma
Finally, an absolute truth in an awful hate-filled thread. You, sir, deserve a round of applause from the mods who have so far vacated this thread.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by planetfall
Actually everybody is fighting an enemy we fight what we call enemies and become the enemies of the people we fight.
But at the same time we all fall for the same rhetoric.
Is who we believe is the one with the right to be righteous. because nobody wants to compromise and make peace, we just work for it and win Nobel prizes.
Yes I been sarcastic.
A British teacher has been charged with inciting hatred, insulting religion and showing contempt of religious beliefs after her class named a teddy bear Mohammad, state media said on Wednesday.
"Khartoum north prosecution unit has completed its investigation and has charged the Briton Gillian (Gibbons) under Article 125 of the criminal code," SUNA said quoting a senior Justice Ministry official.
It added the file would go before court on Thursday.
Originally posted by Togetic
A British teacher has been charged with inciting hatred, insulting religion and showing contempt of religious beliefs after her class named a teddy bear Mohammad, state media said on Wednesday.
"Khartoum north prosecution unit has completed its investigation and has charged the Briton Gillian (Gibbons) under Article 125 of the criminal code," SUNA said quoting a senior Justice Ministry official.
It added the file would go before court on Thursday.
www.msnbc.msn.com...
On Tuesday, a Sudanese embassy spokesman in London had indicated Gibbons might soon be freed.
"The police is bound to investigate," embassy spokesman Khalid al-Mubarak told British Broadcasting Corp. radio. "I am pretty certain that this minute incident will be clarified very quickly and this teacher who has been helping us with the teaching of children will be safe and will be cleared."