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Originally posted by joehayner
Colonel, keep it civil. I have never told you to shut up.
I've always been told that hate was a mechanism of evil, eventhough I don't believe in evil. I think everything goes by your moral code.
Well, I don't believe blindly in heaven or hell. I don't think of things in terms of black and white, or good and evil. There is plenty of color out there. I think that those who limit their vision down to just black and white will miss a lot of the color in this world. I'm not going to miss any of it. This will be your hell.
A quote-
Leviticus 19:17 - Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
I read some other verses, and there is much more hate than I thought in the bible. It makes me like it even less. I used to think it was a good guide for a moral code, but I think the whole thing is skrewy.
First of all, don't tell me what to do. Secondly, the world is not morall relative as you said "everything goes by your moral code." There ARE absolutes. So, it isn't what may be good for me is evil for you and visa/versa. But, you adopt that philosophy so you can conduct your evil in any fashion you want without fear of Hell in your afterlife. So be it. Don't say I didn't warn you.
And about "being told" about the Bible, its best that you READ the Bible than listen to what others say who do so for their own purposes.
Originally posted by joehayner
My question to you, how do you know? How do you know for sure? You have been raised to believe that there is something absolute, but that doesn't make you right. I know it's impossible to get through to you, because you just dismiss everything I say as evil.
I don't use my moral code to justify things that you would consider evil. In fact, I'd bet that our moral values are pretty close to the same. All except the part where you worship and I do not. I never said there was no god, I just haven't found proof of existence. Plus I think that most organized religion is a joke. They're so corrupt it's not even funny.
I'd be perfectly content with any afterlife. I really can't say if there will be one for me, or if I will just cease to exist, but either way I have no choice in the matter. Like I said, I refuse to make such a large conclusion about how our world works with only a few books as proof. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Originally posted by Colonel
I know based upon faith and logic. Let's look at physics. In an atom, there is an electron (which is completely negative), a nuetron (which we'll call a nuetral charge), and a positron (which has a positive charge.) If that be the case in nature, why can't it be so with God and the universe? There is good (the psoitron), evil (the electron), and those who are lukewarm (the nuetron). Kind of a funny analogy but, I can see it. I believe that this is the basis for bigger things in the spiritual universe.
Furthermore, there is an afterlife. With physics again, we all know that energy cannot be destroyed. It just changes shape. So in your afterlife, your energy will just change shape---in the form of a demon...but you knew trhat already, right?
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
First of all I think you mean Proton.
A positron is the antimatter equivolent of the electron.
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
First of all I think you mean Proton.
A positron is the antimatter equivolent of the electron.
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Sure, I am a math and science guy, although not careerwise.
Anyway, there are plenty of dems here. But Colonel lumps together all us conservatives or people with slightly conservative views into that catagory.
Originally posted by Colonel
The Spirit of Cain was deep in them and I hurt over it. They were never like that before.
[Edited on 1-2-2004 by Colonel]
Originally posted by joehayner
And why is that? Too intoxicated?(j/k):w:
Originally posted by Pisky
Originally posted by Colonel
The Spirit of Cain was deep in them and I hurt over it. They were never like that before.
[Edited on 1-2-2004 by Colonel]
I never used to be a cynic, I always believed in the good in a person's soul, but since the 80's I have watched this 'Spirit of Cain' getting a greater and greater grip on the people. The spirit of Cain is the spirit of Reagonomics, when the people started selling out en-masse to the almighty dollar. It was just as bad in the UK, for when Reagan/Bush were in the White House, Thatcher was the British Prime Minister.
I watched these degenerate so-called leaders coining it in on the backs of those less fortunate, and it chilled me to the bone when I saw former friends of mine also selling out (Yes, some even became 'Yuppies')
Over the years I became cynical. No longer was I shocked at the actions of once kind people. Nothing about people shocks me anymore. It was a hard lesson, but one I needed to learn in order to keep my own soul.