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Originally posted by Rockpuck
The next great public speaker in this country, coupled with the new executive powers granted to the branch by Bush and past presidents will have more power then any President in our history. Thats when I will really start to worry.
18 U.S.C.A. § 514
(a) Whoever, with the intent to defraud--
(1) draws, prints, processes, produces, publishes, or otherwise makes, or attempts or causes the same, within the United States;
(2) passes, utters, presents, offers, brokers, issues, sells, or attempts or causes the same, or with like intent possesses, within the United States; or
(3) utilizes interstate or foreign commerce, including the use of the mails or wire, radio, or other electronic communication, to transmit, transport, ship, move, transfer, or attempts or causes the same, to, from, or through the United States,
any false or fictitious instrument, document, or other item appearing, representing, purporting, or contriving through scheme or artifice, to be an actual security or other financial instrument issued under the authority of the United States, a foreign government, a State or other political subdivision of the United States, or an organization, shall be guilty of a class B felony.
Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
Funny, the actual dollar is barely affiliated with the United States Government as its printed by a private bank
U.S. Currency is printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, which is part of the United States Treasury, which in turn is a U.S. Government agency.
More on the BEP.
[edit on 15/11/2007 by Mirthful Me]
Originally posted by DisabledVet
Sorry you couldn't be any more wrong... the Federal Reserve is no more federal than Federal Express. It is a PRIVATE FOR PROFIT entity that prints money as an admitted PRODUCT for SALE to the United States Govt.
The "Rate" is the interest it charges the US Govt. to BORROW the money from the PRIVATE FED.
Prove me wrong Mr. "Super Moderator"
[edit on 16-11-2007 by DisabledVet]
"U.S. coins are produced by the United States Mint. U.S. dollar banknotes are printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and, since 1914, have been issued by the Federal Reserve."
Originally posted by geemony
The "rate" is the interest the US government has to pay the Fed Reserve to borrow back the currency from the Fed reserve banks.
In many ways this event is comparable to the assault on the Davidians near Waco, although fortunately without the loss of life. But it is also clearly an act of war against the American people, and treason. It could also be a prelude to attacks on other dissenters, such as activists in the constitutional militia movement, Ron Paul supporters, and others. I advise alerting all your people to be ready for anything
Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
This is all interesting to say the least. This is the first I have ever heard of a such thing as a "Liberty Dollar". Now on to the subject of Ron Paul, why do people continue to worship this guy like he's JC himself? What's so special about him?
This money sounds like an interesting idea, but it DOES undermine the U.S. Dollar. Not being offically backed by the government, who is going to accept such currency? A creative idea? Yes. A potential problem though, and ripe for abuse and forgery? Yes.
American Liberty Dollar and/or Hawaii Dala currency and/or precious metals of gold, silver, copper, platinum or other substance and United States currency are forfeitable to the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 982 (a)(1) because it is property involved in, or traceable to, money laundering, in volation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1956 and 1957 under 18 U.S.C. § 982 (a)(3) because it is, or is traceable to, gross receipts and proceeds obtained, directly or indirectly, as a result of mail fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1341 and wire fraud, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1343. Authority for this warrant is provided by 18 U.S.C. § 981(b) and 21 U.S.C. § 853(f).
EVANSVILLE, Ind. (AP) — Federal agents raided the headquarters of a group that produces illegal currency and puts it in circulation, seizing gold, silver and two tons of copper coins featuring Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.