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Please do tell what happens in the degrees leading up to 33. I can't wait to be enlightened!!!
Originally posted by Duke02
This is a good article that exposes John D Rockefellers Masonic Links and shows how he used them to create and take down Masonic Presidents.
Rockefeller and the Masons
Funny, I, like many other 32° Masons on ATS, managed to be come a 32° Mason without being a banker or a military leader. In fact, all it took was $100 and a weekend of theater and lectures. It's amusing the stuff some people will make up. Our fellow member Lost In the Midwest is going to be made a 33° this fall. Quite an honor, to be sure, but I don't know that I'd consider him an "architect of the New World Order" or a "Philosopher King".
The Masons are run by the descendants of the Knights Templar, who now are referred to as the Illuminati or the architects of the New World order. They also constitute the highest degree (33rd) in Freemasonry, or the "Philosopher kings and their ruling class", which incorporates their symbolism and ceremonies.
The 32nd degree of Freemasonry is reserved for descendants of the Templar military order. These are the leaders of our military and military intelligence agencies like the CIA, KGB, Waffen SS and M1
The 31st degree is reserved for their merchant/banker/entertainer class.
This is commonly known as the Taxil Hoax. Leo Taxil admitted more than 100 years ago that he made up that quote. And yet people still cite it today as if it were true.
"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.)
Typically when you post a link you include a commentary as to why you felt it was relavant. Put some effort into your posts and explain to everyone why you felt these links were so important to include.
Originally posted by ebnmaryam
any link above already commented when you enter any of them.
AugustusMasonicus what the knife and the mask are for? i see much blod there!!
Originally posted by Izarith
My questions are....
Why are potential Masons no longer required to ask three times to become a Freemason before they are given an application?
Do You as a Freemason feel that most loges are losing their true masonic porous, that the knowledge of Freemasonry is being replaced by membership fees?
Why does the person need to believe in a supreme being to become a Freemason?
If you answer could you pleas tell me your degree.
To be honest, I don't know if that was ever a requirement so much as an unwritten tradition. At least in my state, I've never seen that officially on the books. That doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't happen though... if an old-timer wanted to be sure of his friend's motivations before handing him a petition. It could, of course, be different in different jurisdictions. There's no overarching unifying body governing all of Freemasonry, so it us up to the voting members of each grand lodge to determine the constitution, laws and bylaws of its own member bodies.
Originally posted by Izarith
Why are potential Masons no longer required to ask three times to become a Freemason before they are given an application?
While I personally think that Masonry serves as many as four, if not more, types of members (philanthropists, fraternalists, esotericists and ritualists) it is my own opinion that the framework of Masonry is such that as long as there are some members of each type, the things that make it Masonry will never be lost.
Do You as a Freemason feel that most loges are losing their true masonic porous, that the knowledge of Freemasonry is being replaced by membership fees?
If he didn't, the rituals and lessons of the degrees wouldn't hold as much meaning to him.
Why does the person need to believe in a supreme being to become a Freemason?
As network dude has stated above this post, the question only belies your ignorance. I'm currently a 3rd degree Master Mason, an officer in my lodge, a 32° Scottish Rite Mason, a member of two sub groups within the Scottish Rite, and a line officer in one of those two organizations. But there's no degree higher than that of Master Mason.
If you answer could you pleas tell me your degree.
Originally posted by network dude
If you truly want to be a mason, you will ask to become one. Asking 3 times is just repetitive. ask12b1
no, I personally feel as if we need to increase our numbers of young people when I see the older generation. They are the WW2 generation and are not going to be with us in 10 years. They hold a lot of knowledge and it needs to be passed on.
The teachings of masonry revolve around the bible and the whole idea is to achieve a place in the spiritual building with the Grand Architect of the universe. If you didn't believe in him, why would you want to see him? A pointless journey is a journey you need not take.
now I get to address the fantasy you posted above all these questions. You have no idea what masonry is all about. How could you? What you read on some sites and hear from some people who are not masons themselves, should be set aside and viewed with other factual information. Like going to a masonic site to test the things you thought were true against the things you were told. A 3rd degree master mason is the highest degree there is in masonry. You can join an apendant body and get up to the 33rd, but you are still a 3rd degree master mason and a 32nd degree Scottish Rite mason or whatever order you go into. I am a 32nd degree Scottish Rite mason as well as a 3rd degree master mason. But a past master has much more street cred than I do even if he never joined the Scottish Rite or any other order. He gets to have a vote in the grand lodge. I have to become master and after that, I will get that privlidge.
The teachings of masonry will make you think differently than you did before you joined. For the better. You will think of others first. You will think about your actions before you do them. You will not get instructions on how to take over the world. No matter what you have been told.
Originally posted by JoshNorton
To be honest, I don't know if that was ever a requirement so much as an unwritten tradition. At least in my state, I've never seen that officially on the books. That doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't happen though... if an old-timer wanted to be sure of his friend's motivations before handing him a petition. It could, of course, be different in different jurisdictions. There's no overarching unifying body governing all of Freemasonry, so it us up to the voting members of each grand lodge to determine the constitution, laws and bylaws of its own member bodies.
While I personally think that Masonry serves as many as four, if not more, types of members (philanthropists, fraternalists, esotericists and ritualists) it is my own opinion that the framework of Masonry is such that as long as there are some members of each type, the things that make it Masonry will never be lost.
As network dude has stated above this post, the question only belies your ignorance. I'm currently a 3rd degree Master Mason, an officer in my lodge, a 32° Scottish Rite Mason, a member of two sub groups within the Scottish Rite, and a line officer in one of those two organizations. But there's no degree higher than that of Master Mason.