A New Light In Our Sky?, page 7

Hmm, the thing is still growing on a massive scale.

Comet 17P/Holmes has been relentlessly expanding since its explosion on Oct 23rd and now it spans an angle in the sky almost half as wide as the full Moon. Using a picture of the comet he took on Oct. 30th, Helmut Groell of Moers, Germany, created this animation for comparison:

Actually, the comet is even bigger than it looks. While the Moon is a mere 240 thousand miles away, Comet Holmes is 150 million miles from Earth. The comet's physical diameter is thus seven times wider than the planet Jupiter--and it is still expanding.

Source: SpaceWeather.com

This is one strange "comet", if it really is a comet... it certainly doesnt behave like a comet. Seven times the diameter of frigging JUPITER? And they still say its a comet? A lot of people say it looks more like a planet.

Interesting times. Its on a path away from us according to official sources, so lets hope they are not lying...what if this thing is approaching us and is therefore looking bigger and bigger to us? Is it possible?

What if they lie about it being the comet we discovered in 1892? What if its something else? Like Nibiru coming back. It would make sense if 2007 is 2012, wouldnt it? Two months until it hits...

Yes, I admit these are highly speculative theories.


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reply to post by Xeros

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thanks :-).....actually, i have just been reading more about it. And now i understand. I thought the actual comet was that big, but now (as i understand it), it's just the coma ( ? ) (which i take to mean the light stuff surrounding it)

Can you tell i know heaps about astronomy

am i correct on this?

reply to post by geek101

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Lol. Yeah, as far as i'm aware, that's what we are seeing. The "corona" (I think you mean that) seems a good word to describe it.

co·ro·na (k-rn)
n. pl. co·ro·nas or co·ro·nae (-n)
1. Astronomy
a. A faintly colored luminous ring appearing to surround a celestial body visible through a haze or thin cloud

reply to post by Xeros

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Actually, I think the correct term is Coma and not Corona.

But I'll have one just the same.

Originally posted by Hal9000
reply to post by Xeros

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Actually, I think the correct term is Coma and not Corona.

But I'll have one just the same.

Cheers, I stand corrected

reply to post by Copernicus

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Well i don't know what to say to that, I've tried to explain as best as I could. I'm no astronomer though, I guess that you have to go with what you think is happening, in relation to a conspiracy. I agree, an independant asronomer would really help at this point.

reply to post by Xeros

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Yeah, I would really appreciate if someone could find some independent source of information on this comet...

All I have found is NASA. The information about this being Holmes is from NASA, the orbit calculations is from NASA.

What if its a lie? I dont think they would tell mankind if there was a Planet X coming, until it was absolutely necessary. They would only create panic.

But I would like to know before the public.


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reply to post by Copernicus

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It's the same comet because it's in the same place it's supposed to be. For NASA to fake that, they would have to alter every record of it's orbit for the last 115 years. That's every public record in every published work, in every home and library throughout the world. Not very likely is it?

When they say it's seven times as large as Jupiter, they're talking about the outgassing coma that we're seeing as a big halo around the actual comet which is still only 3 or 4 km diameter. The reason why we're seeing it as a huge halo is explained on every page of this thread.

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

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I dont know... I just think something smells fishy. But I do have a suspicious mind and I can be wrong. We'll have to wait and see what this thing will do next.

Another article about the comet here, where is says:

So the diameter of the gas around the comet is about 1/5th the distance to the Moon!

Pretty good for a comet that was estimated to have a diameter of only 2.11 miles to start with!

Guess we'll wait and see... here is the updated wikipedia entry as well.



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reply to post by Copernicus

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The only thing fishy going on is your paranoia, my friend. Not everything is a grand conspiracy orchestrated by the evil United States. Orbital mechanics is pretty straight forward mathematics, it is right where it is supposed to be. Oh ,by the way its orbit was established 50 years before NASA even existed, come on.
There is plenty of information out there that doesnt come from nasa or any goverment source, just look for it. Most of the research work done in any scientific field is NOT done by government researchers, but by researchers at private and public universities.
This comet has suddenly brightened several time in the past, AND ITS NOT BIGGER THAN JUPITER. It si a cloud around the commet that gives it the appearance of a larger size.

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I disagree its paranoia. To me, this site is about looking behind the official picture. And I dont trust NASA for good reasons.

What I really wanted was more information about this thing. I am starting to get convinced its the right comet from the information in this thread, so thanks to everybody who has posted good arguments.

I still think the comet acts very strange, and I will keep an eye on it. But it does look like its the comet they say it is.


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Listen up peoples

1. Is the comet moving away from us?
Yes

2. Then why does it look as if it is increasing in size?
Because Earth's own orbit is in relation to Holmes' orbit and WE are moving closer to it. Not the other way around.
Earth is caching actually up with it, so to speak. This creates the "illusion" that its headding towards us. It will continue to get bigger and brighter until Nov. 6th when we are closest to it @ a distance of 1.62 AU.
After then Earths orbit will start to carry us further away from it.
Check out the orbit here Holmes orbit, play with the controls one day at a time while observing its distance from Earth. When it gets to 1.62 AU on the 6th keep clicking a day at a time and you'll see the distance start to get greater and greater. Obviously, the closer you are to an object, the bigger it appears right? Check it out for yourselves, and do the math.
Its is an interesting topic.
Keep an eye on it. You'll see it start to get smaller after Nov. 6th.

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