The Kingmaker Plot, page 4

You're not doing yourself any favours just bumping yourself with one liners. Either do what your audience asks or lose it. It is that simple, you're not generating interest just annoyance.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you have actually done some work and are prepared to share it. Some of the links that you provide are interesting. You need to explain how the "Kingmaker Plot" relates to all this - as I said a timeline would be helpful.

I do not think that it is unreasonable to suggest that directly or indirectly the British Isles had contact with the ancient mediterranean and Persian cultures.

Trade routes are known to have existed throughout Europe and as Britain was one of the main European sources of tin and had rich copper sources along the western coast, it is feasible that the Sumerians used or crossed those trades routes, although the known (or accepted) dates do not match.

Copper mining started in Europe (in the Balkans) in approximately 4,500 BC and in the British Isles in 2,500 BC when it was combined with Cornish tin to produce Bronze. This obviously made western Britain a very important trade point as nowhere else, at that time, had both the accessibility for easy trade (ie other dual sources inland etc) and both the required alloys.

While I think that it is a stretch to say that the Sumerians visited Britain, it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that they shared trading partners. I think it highly possible though that trade existed with the Phoenicians.

Originally posted by Malichai
Christianity did not come out from Rome and go around the world. It came from Britain, invading Rome.

There are some who believe that Joseph of Arimathea travelled to Britain, and as this ‘legend’ has become embroiled in the Arthurian myth it is probable that, had he done so, he may have travelled via the trade route to Cornwall (tin).

Christianity in Britain certainly pre-dates the Roman Church by at least a century and a church, St Crux, is recorded as having existed in the 1st century BC during the Roman occupation of York (Romans arrived in York in 71 AD) well before Constantine’s arrival some two centuries later. It is believed, that the Brigantes had already established a settlement in York and that there was already a port of sorts there. As an established port it is likely that had Christianity arrived via Cornwall in (say) 48 AD that it would have reached York and the Scottish trading posts during the early Roman occupation given the improved communication networks.

There is certainly evidence throughout the world of Christianity that predates Constantine. Though the Roman Church may like us to believe that it is has precidence there is ample evidence to contradict this. The Roman Church was always only about control and dominance. Just like the Roman Empire before it.

The Roman Church was simply a means to administer the various Christianities and exploit them through monetary trade (which can be taxed) rather than trade in kind (which cannot be taxed). It did not become a 'holy' organisation until much later, though it seemingly never lost its desire to make money.

Britain due to its isolation following the decline of the Roman Empire was relatively backward and had no interest to the Church for many centuries. Not until the Norman conquest did Britain fall again to Rome. And it never sat well. Happy to be Catholics not happy to give our money and men to the service of Rome. We did like the Templars though and they flourished here.