i must say i was being a smart a$$ the other day with one line posts and a mod cleared that up for me. the mod told me that posting a link to another topic was an example of a reasonable one line post. im glad yall are passing on the info. sucks for me though cause i love being a pain. its the only thing im good at...

Wow. I don't know what went down around here lately but I am feeling a major disturbance in the force. Glad I started my new job Monday. This too shall pass.
Peace.

Originally posted by jpm1602
Wow. I don't know what went down around here lately but I am feeling a major disturbance in the force.

Some feel that if others break the T&C they are also allowed to do the same. It doesn't work that way.

Btw, good luck on the new job. Change is good.

[edit on 16-10-2007 by intrepid]

Got to say, just started, and I've been learning concepts like de-individuation, and get leary, and having a laugh. I've probably not been your ideal customer. But then I've never pressed any ad-clicks either, so that goes in my favour....... But the one thing I notice is that your board ends up structured like a debating board, not a discussion (how can we have that with de-individuation) board. I think when people get lost in the debate, T & C's come into it, and maybe a recognition of the debating side of this would help calm some ruffled feathers.

Glad you bring up this topic, intrepid, because often I'm bewildred as how to interpret T&C.

Especially I'm thinking about hate speech, clearly it should get the hammer immediately. But often it is disguised as irony, humour, sarcasm, whatever, and it might be so intended from the poster. Here the cultural divide comes in, cause what is humour in America can be an insult in Europe and vice versa.

So I think to keep the board 'clean' in a global sense, sarcasm should be, if not dealt with, subject to scrutiny.

At two instances I have alerted staff over such and no visible action was taken. The one instance was clearly sarcasm, but in such a bad taste it IMO should not have been allowed. The other was clear hate speech, but as the post stands and no warning attached I have to presume it in the judgement of the staff is within T&C.

The judgement of conduct is very cultural related, so what can be a joke or a statement on one side of the pond is an offense or attack on the other.

To me it creates confussion, though I think I know Americans better than most, I have never lived there, so I can't be 100% sure, as the intention for what is put into those always harsh wordings.

Post like "I hate..." shouldn't be allowed. A different wordning could express excactly the same. No matter how much I hate certain public figures I would never put it in writing.

Certain phrases beside hate, like "kill'm", "nuke'm" and the like, as well as the degatory nouns often connected to those, should be dealt with.

IMHO.

Originally posted by redled
But the one thing I notice is that your board ends up structured like a debating board, not a discussion (how can we have that with de-individuation) board.

Yes, I see this and it isn't conducive to discussion. It's a throwback to the meaningless American(sorry guys but it's a fact) mindset. "With me or against me." That REALLY limits discussion. I REALLY wish we could get past this and discuss topics again. I miss that. Inside the T&C that is.

Excuse me? John Lear may post far-out theories, but they are not hoaxes.

He clearly states that these are his opinions.

Are you unable to distinguish between a hoax and a fringe theory?

Look its really that simple. Stay on topic and within the T&C of the board. Its really not that hard.

The 'My sister does it too" excuse did not get me any points when I tried to explain why I broke curfew to my Dad, Its the same way here.

Originally posted by khunmoon
The judgement of conduct is very cultural related, so what can be a joke or a statement on one side of the pond is an offense or attack on the other.

I'm glad you brought this up. There has been posts that we, as staff, discuss that when taken from the context of the culture isn't offensive, coming from the said culture. It's not like it was even a different language. UK vs US, or even Canadian English. In the UK the statement would be like, "What, is there a problem?" In the US or Canada we're going, "BAN HIM!!!"

Fortunately we have a multicultural staff and we discuss these things as we discuss all things. People think we move autonomously, we don't. That's why it looks like we move slowly at times. We CAN'T move immediately on seeing something. Better to be slow than wrong.

Originally posted by intrepid
Yes, I see this and it isn't conducive to discussion. It's a throwback to the meaningless American(sorry guys but it's a fact) mindset. "With me or against me." That REALLY limits discussion. I REALLY wish we could get past this and discuss topics again.

If you really want to get past this, you must first not generalize and represent as fact A meaningless American mindset.

I understand and appreciate the efforts and the work the staff does in moderating this site, but this kind of statement coming from a Super Moderator is not postive reinforcement of your intended message in your OP.

I am an American, and I never have had the feeling you describe as fact "With me or against me."

I come to this board to hear everyone's ideas and thoughts on a variety of subjects, and have learned quite a bit from these discussions.

To make that kind of general opinion, and state it as fact is an insult.

Originally posted by JacKatMtn


To make that kind of general opinion, and state it as fact is an insult.

You should see it from this side. It's not an insult but you might still want to open a vein. And I'm talking about YOU guys, Rep's and Dem's. You're the first to defend them both. Your country needs you dude. It's in deep trouble.